creating an undisputed canon that i just can't get with.
you literally just disputed it
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
undisputed by the basic culturezine mafia ;)
― imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
and you give a shit what the mafia says why?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
becaaaause the sheeple listen to them and construct this tastes accordingly
maybe let's see how the land lies in twenty years though yes
― imago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
I like that these lists exist. None of them ever match what I like at all. Out of a list of, say, 200 I'm lucky to find 1 or 2 songs or albums I was unaware of that I wind up liking. Good enough for me. Literally could not care less about a canon.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link
I fully endorse the Power Trip placement.
― o. nate, Friday, 8 November 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link
my point stands that there are certain artists cropping up in all of these lists, creating an undisputed canon that i just can't get with. exhibit a: tame impala but there's like 60/70 that are ubiquitous regardless of their merits
― imago, Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:41 AM (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
it's called 'lowest common denominator'. i'm not crazy about them or anything, but imho tame impala are a relatively good lcd band. they have a really good drummer, and the 'always going backwards' song is catchy
― flopson, Friday, 8 November 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link
"speaking of canon" erm isn't that the whole reason threads like this are even made? i'm surprised there isn't more pushback to the idea that we ought to keep reflexively making threads like this every single time list season starts up again
― dyl, Friday, 8 November 2019 04:21 (four years ago) link
Crack Magazine top 100 albums of the decade
https://crackmagazine.net/article/what-just-happened/the-top-100-albums-of-the-decade/
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 11 November 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
100 Macintosh Plus - Floral Shoppe99 Jeremih - Late Nights (The Album)98 Caribou - Swim97 Tropic of Cancer - Restless Idylls96 Clams Casino - Instrumentals95 Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker94 Kurt Vile - Wakin on a Pretty Daze93 Ratking - So It Goes92 Wu Lyf - Go Tell Fire to the Mountain91 JME - Integrity90 St. Vincent - Masseduction89 Odd Future - The OF Tape Vol. 288 Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree87 Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap | Youtube Version with "Juice" included86 Tierra Whack - Whack World85 Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want84 Huerco S - For Those of You Who Have Never (And Also Those Who Have)83 Kano - Hoodies All Summer82 Sleater-Kinney - No Cities to Love81 Nines - Crop Circle80 Angel Olsen - Burn Your Fire for No Witness79 Metronomy - The English Riviera78 Tomasa Del Real - Bellaca Del Año77 Lorde - Melodrama76 The Caretaker - An Empty Bliss Beyond This World75 Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid74 Popcaan - Where We Come From73 Sufjan Stevens - Carrie & Lowell72 M.E.S.H. - Piteous Gate71 Charli XCX - Pop 270 DJ Python - Dulce Compañia69 Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool68 Mica Levi - Under the Skin OST67 These New Puritans - Field of Reeds66 Richard Dawson - Peasant65 Perfume Genius - Too Bright64 (Sandy) Alex G - DSU63 Bad Bunny - X 100PRE62 Nicolas Jaar - Space is Only Noise61 Ought - More Than Any Other Day60 Laurel Halo - Chance of Rain59 U.S. Girl - In a Poem Unlimited58 Gil Scott-Heron - I'm New Here57 Beach House - Bloom56 Andy Stott - Luxury Problems55 Kelela - Cut 4 Me54 The Bug - Angels & Devils53 SpaceGhostPurrp - Blvcklvnd Rvdix 66.652 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs51 The Hotelier - Home, Like Noplace Is There50 Young Thug - Barter 649 IDLES - Joy as an Act of Resistance48 Yves Tumor - Safe in the Hands of Love47 Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti46 Tyler, the Creator - Flower Boy45 Earl Sweatshirt - Doris44 Show Me the Body - Body War43 Blood Orange - Freetown Sound42 Novelist - Novelist Guy41 Robyn - Body Talk40 Actress - Ghettoville39 Anohni - HOPELESSNESS38 Jlin - Dark Energy37 Mitski - Puberty 236 Danny Brown - XXX35 Arca - Arca34 Deafheaven - Sunbather33 Drake - Take Care32 SZA - Ctrl31 D'Angelo and The Vanguard - Black Messiah30 Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal29 Rihanna - ANTI28 Fever Ray - Plunge27 The Weeknd - House of Balloons26 Sons of Kemet - Your Queen is a Reptile25 John Talabot - ƒIN24 David Bowie - Blackstar23 Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy22 Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost21 Björk - Vulnicura20 Grimes - Visions19 Frank Ocean - Blonde18 Grouper - Ruins17 Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Push the Sky Away16 J Hus - Common Sense15 Rustie - Glass Swords14 Kanye West - Yeezus13 Beyoncé - Lemonade12 Rich Gang - Tha Tour Pt. 111 Lana Del Rey - Ultraviolence10 FKA Twigs - LP109 Jam City - Classical Curves08 Jenny Hval - Apocalypse, girl07 Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly06 SOPHIE - OIL OF EVERY PEARL'S UN-INSIDES05 Solange - A Seat at the Table04 PJ Harvey - Let England Shake03 DJ Rashad - Double Cup02 Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city01 Dean Blunt - BLACK METAL
i swear to god the next time i see deafheaven in one of these
― imago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
Dean Blunt's Black Metal is pretty good but I think The Redeemer is great
Classical Curves is an interesting choice
― Dan S, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
― imago
i will never understand how upset you can get that other people like records you don't
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link
Classical Curves being in there makes a lot of sense considering the make-up of the rest of that Clash list, it's a very FACT list and the ballot contained a lot of FACTish writers. There's an element of canon construction in all of these but it feels especially on-the-nose here, but when the list contains Popcaan, John Talabot, Sons of Kemet, J Hus, JME, DJ Rashad and the new Kano I'm OK with that.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link
It also feels *very much* like an albums list composed by people whose primary listening is to largely non-album genres.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
the difference between this list and a FACT one is that FACT are quite wilfully not on-the-nose in their lists generally (and all for the better). this feels like a midpoint between FACT and the more typical sort of lists that come out of big US publications. there's still a lot to like about it as Matt said. i expect Classical Curves will show up on a lot of other UK lists, it seemed to be a real favourite among slightly left of center UK publications. generally i find UK lists to be a little more interesting as there's fair amount of stuff that just doesn't crossover to the US (and thus the rest of the english-speaking world) unfortunately
still have never understood anything from Dean Blunt though
also had no idea "Juice" was missing from the streaming version of Acid Rap - what's up with that, was it a sample issue or something?
― ufo, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link
Even regional US scenes have a tendency to be erased in the big publications' lists.
(Also 'Juice' was the one I always found myself skipping so props to the streaming version there)
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 11:20 (four years ago) link
it’s a sample issue iirc
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
lol Deafheaven is a great band
― alpine static, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
I misread that as: lol Deafheaven is a great bland
― that said, I’d prefer a single serving of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link
the redeemer, black is beautiful, and one nation are my fave dean blunt albums
― brimstead, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link
I like classical curves a lot, glad to see/hear that its appeal has endured. it has a lot of space and drama
― brimstead, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
Me I like Stone Island
― that said, I’d prefer a single serving of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link
Classical Curves includes a very out-there mutation of instrumental grime, but it also feels like it is much more than that
― Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:18 (four years ago) link
it stimulates some of the same pleasure centers for me as Daniel Lopatin’s music
― Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link
I love almost everything he’s done this decade but Dean Blunt is a hard sell for most of my friends except those who smoke weed. And even them can’t stand him more than two songs in a row. I might need to meet more people.
The Babyfather side project is also slept upon a lot. I get so offput by that offensively tacky album cover for BBF, but I give it a pass because God Hour is one of my favorite things he’s done.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 06:26 (four years ago) link
One of my friends described his music as post-racial and I can kind of hear what he meant.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 06:30 (four years ago) link
never was sure what the object was that was depicted on that album cover
― Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 07:39 (four years ago) link
Kind of enjoyed this list despite multiple Drake entries:
https://exclaim.ca/music/article/exclaim_50_best_canadian_albums_of_the_2010s
50. Owen Pallett - In Conflict (2014)49. Shad - Flying Colours (2013)48. Jennifer Castle - Pink City (2014)47. Colin Stetson - New History Warfare, Vol. 3: To See More Light (2013)46. Andy Shauf - The Party (2016)45. Counterparts - The Difference Between Hell and Home (2013)44. Women - Public Strain (2010)43. Braids - Deep in the Iris (2015)42. Snotty Nose Rez Kids - Trapline (2019)41. Tomb Mold - Planetary Clairvoyance (2019)40. Justin Bieber - Purpose (2015)39. Ought - More Than Any Other Day (2014)38. Gord Downie - Secret Path (2016)37. Marie Davidson - Working Class Woman (2018)36. Timber Timbre - Hot Dreams (2014)35. Alvvays - Antisocialites (2017)34. Royal Canoe - Today We're Believers (2013)33. Majical Cloudz - Impersonator (2013)32. Dilly Dally - Sore (2015)31. METZ - METZ (2012)30. Haviah Mighty - 13th Floor (2019)29. Gorguts - Colored Sands (2013)28. Hubert Lenoir - Darlène (2018)27. Leonard Cohen - You Want It Darker (2016)26. Purity Ring - Shrines (2013)25. Preoccupations - Viet Cong (2015)24. Drake - Nothing Was the Same23. Tanya Tagaq - Animism (2014)22. Feist - Metals (2011)21. BADBADNOTGOOD - IV (2016)20. Caribou - Our Love (2014)19. PUP - The Dream Is Over (2016)18. Destroyer - Kaputt (2011)17. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - 'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend! (2012)16. Alvvays - Alvvays (2014)15. A Tribe Called Red - We Are the Halluci Nation (2016)14. Mac DeMarco - Salad Days (2014)13. Grimes - Visions (2012)12. Fucked Up - David Comes to Life (2011)11. Jeremy Dutcher - Wolastoqiyik Lintuwakonawa (2018)10. Daniel Caesar - Freudian (2017)9. U.S. Girls - In a Poem Unlimited (2018)8. Japandroids - Celebration Rock (2012)7. The Weeknd - House of Balloons (2011)6. Caribou - Swim (2010)5. Grimes - Art Angels (2015)4. Drake - Take Care (2011)3. Carly Rae Jepsen - E•MO•TION (2015)2. Kaytranada - 99.9% (2016)1. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs (2010)
― silverfish, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
Jennifer Castle and Tomb Mold too low, wrong PUP and Braids albums, gtfo Drake, where is Sandro Perri???, absolutely not @ the #1
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
no black dresses
― imago, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
Rofl at suburbs number 1
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
ought debut is a classic. they made my montreal decade list
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
My friends love Ought but I’m still struggling with the vocals. In Conflict should be many places higher, obviously. I also think the alvvays second album is better than the first, but they both belong
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
I remember at the time writing about The Suburbs on some message board (not this I am pretty sure) and wondering if all the songs sounding pleasant enough but ultimately all the same and seemingly never-ending was meant to be some sort of meta-comment on urban sprawl.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
that should be "(not this one I am pretty sure)"
― silverfish, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link
Visions is #1 imo
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
all the women side-projects are top 10. cindy lee should be on here
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link
very Toronto centric normster list
― flopson, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link
Crack Magazine top 100 songs
https://crackmagazine.net/article/what-just-happened/the-top-100-songs-of-the-decade/
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
Very uk-centric but I like it. Lots of songs which were popular on ILM’s EOY poll and which I had even forgotten came out this decade.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
"bipp" is a worthy #1
― ufo, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
Exclaim! forgot about Heartland :'(
Or maybe they didn't lol! Fuck the past
― that said, I’d prefer a single serving of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 November 2019 00:30 (four years ago) link
Holy shit, two of those lists up there put DJ Rashad's Double Cup in the top 10. This warms my heart and gives me hope.
― octobeard, Thursday, 14 November 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
The music video for She A Go might be my favorite this decade.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
alvvays and frankie ocean win 2010s everything else zzzzz
― meaulnes, Thursday, 14 November 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link
i wonder if the Quietus is doing one. now that i might actually enjoy.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 15 November 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
they probably are but their recent enough "best albums of the life time of the quietus" (iirc) was really weird and atypical for them because they asked a much wider range of contributors than usual for their votes
― ufo, Friday, 15 November 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link
didn't see that, but I like the idea of an atypical list
― Dan S, Friday, 15 November 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link
https://thequietus.com/articles/25381-top-100-albums-of-the-quietus-existence-2008-2018-decade
this was it, atypical bc it's a bit less in line with their usual general aesthetic, and some really bizarre picks like the second travis scott album
― ufo, Friday, 15 November 2019 06:53 (four years ago) link