US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

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Also like the president is JUST getting up to speed on this thing called the Contsitution

tempted by the fruit of your mother (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

by his people, who are the best people

tempted by the fruit of your mother (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

what is he even talking about? he gets no lawyer / due process for "next weeks"?

The resolution adopted Thursday sets rules for how the various committees will funnel their evidence to the Judiciary Committee, which traditionally considers whether to recommend articles of impeachment. The Intelligence and Judiciary committees will hold public hearings, with the release of transcripts of the confidential witness testimony that the trio of committees collected in depositions.

Trump’s counsel will be allowed to participate in the Judiciary Committee’s phase of the process by receiving evidence and staff reports, questioning witnesses, submitting additional evidence and being invited to offer a concluding presentation.

is this what he's yelling about?

But Republicans complained that Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., will be able to reject Republican subpoenas. Republicans also criticized Nadler's power to limit the president's ability to call or question witnesses if he rules that the administration is withholding documents or witnesses.

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

Fake Hearing (trial)

I luv it

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

As senior security officials tried to get a meeting with President Donald Trump to convince him to release the hold on military aid for Ukraine, the administration's attention was elsewhere, according to newly released evidence.

A 324-page transcript of closed-door testimony of top U.S. diplomat in Ukraine released Wednesday revealed that the meeting was difficult to arrange partly because the president's national security advisors and cabinet officials were busy dealing with his desire to buy Greenland.

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

it’s like discovery with fewer rules. for weeks.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

Bannon to testify against roger stone?

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

DJTJ on The View this morning is the expected trainwreck.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

apologies for fox link but it's at the top of the current white house propaganda daily email

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

aw shit, you subscribe to the WH propaganda email? i should get on that - i enjoy waking up to fresh, severe mental anguish every morning

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

Alabama GOP Senate primary is gonna be such a shitshow - Sessions, Roy Moore, and Byrne, none of who are gonna drop out, two of whom already have shitty relationships with Trump.

popcorngif

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

also funny how the White House/House GOP are still obsessed about the whistleblower, who basically doesn't matter anymore now that there's all this other testimony + people coming forward. Nothing to be gained politically by "unmasking" or discrediting him/her, all the details in the complaint have already been corroborated and will enter the record anyway.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

Nothing to be gained politically by "unmasking" or discrediting him/her, all the details in the complaint have already been corroborated and will enter the record anyway.

yeah, it's weird. maybe they want to throw the more rabid conspiratorial part of their base a bone by giving them to scapegoat? once qanon figures out who the whistleblower is, that'll be months of activity until they connect everything back to the lizard people et al

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

These are not bright men.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

I mean its perfectly in line with their usual strategy, 1) intimidate anyone else from coming forward and 2) try like hell to cast whoever this is as some Deep State plant funded by Soros or whatever

frogbs, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

once qanon figures out who the whistleblower is

he's been doxxed for a couple weeks now?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

Not knowing the names means they can't besmirch them as DEM OPERATIVES or NEVER TRUMPERS.

(Side note: It's cute how being "outed" as a Democratic campaign contributor or an anti-Trumper or a "partisan" means you're automatically a bad source. And yet all the pro-Trump Trumpophiles from Trumptown are all just honest brokers of the unvarnished nonpartisan truth and.... grmph, no point in even pointing out hypocrisies at this point.)

Anyway it's not like having the heads of the whistleblower and the anonymous op-ed writer on pikes would do them any good, politically speaking. It's just stupid naked vengeance.

tempted by the fruit of your mother (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

Well, apparently you can donate $1 million to the Trump campaign and still be lumped in with the Never Trumper plebes.

I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

YOU DO NOT CROSS BARON HARKONNEN

I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

YMP otm

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

only scanned it but not the worst fox news piece ever tbh? the mostly implied claim is that zaid wants to illegally overthrow trump based on political prejudice, and it does not go into the fact that nothing about impeachment is a coup, nor does it address whether zaid has found legitimate allegations of impeachable offenses, which he has.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

he's been doxxed for a couple weeks now?

DJTJ tweeted his name the other day

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

He claimed it was okay, since he was merely signal boosting a Drudge story.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

so why hasn't Schiff subpoena'd Bolton? There's no way Bolton's gonna get his court ruling in time for the public hearings.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

Looks like Schiff has a system?

BREAKING: SCHIFF details questions that witnesses must speak to in order to be considered relevant to impeachment hearings.

This is meant to guide which GOP witnesses they're willing to call. The questions: pic.twitter.com/lzVxZcbUcj

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) November 7, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

they’re expecting a favorable ruling any day on the issue of the subpoena of McGahn from last April, hoping that will clear up the constitutional dispute, I guess

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bolton-willing-to-defy-white-house-and-testify-if-court-clears-the-way-according-to-people-familiar-with-his-views/2019/11/07/dd72d73c-00aa-11ea-9518-1e76abc088b6_story.html

Dan S, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

oh c'mon that will just get appealed to the Supreme Court

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

the article doesn't lay it all out, but maybe they think if the lower court clarifies the constitutional issue to Bolton's satisfaction he will be willing to defy the white house order not to appear

Dan S, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

it would be the funnest denial of cert ever (which won't happen, but dreaming is free).xp

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

from the WP article:

"“It would not be appropriate for a private citizen, like Dr. Kupperman, to unilaterally resolve this momentous constitutional dispute between the two political branches of our government,” Cooper wrote in a letter to House committee chairs.

In a court hearing last week, Cooper made clear that if Bolton is subpoenaed, he would probably join Kupperman in the lawsuit.

At Kupperman’s request, U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon in Washington fast-tracked the case, ordering that final arguments be held Dec. 10.

But on Wednesday afternoon, the House withdrew its subpoena of Kupperman and asked for the suit to be dropped.

House lawyers said that in the interest of speed, they would rely on another case that is further along in judicial proceedings — one involving a subpoena to McGahn, whose testimony was first sought in April after the release of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report.

That case raises similar issues of whether the White House can bar high-ranking administration officials from testifying.

U.S. District Judge Kentanji Brown Jackson in Washington heard oral arguments in the McGahn case last week and said she would probably issue an opinion before the end of November."

Dan S, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

oh so that's why

House Democrats have signaled they are moving on from their efforts to obtain testimony from former national security adviser John Bolton after they say a lawyer for Bolton threatened to file a lawsuit if their client was subpoenaed.

xps

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

guess I shouldn't be surprised by Bolton being a cowardly shitbag

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

Lipmerkin gonna Lipmerkin

I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

I'd heard about Trump using charity $ to buy a painting of himself, but hadn't heard this part:

... Trump bid $10,000 of foundation money on a portrait of himself at a charity auction benefiting the Unicorn Foundation. Trump Organization attorney, Alan Futerfas told the court Trump only donated to start the bidding, but when no one else would bid, the Donald J. Trump Foundation was stuck with the painting.

lolololololololol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

Trump Organization attorney, Alan Futerfas

I've seen this name a time or two, and my brain always turns it into Alan Futterwacken

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

In hindsight, perhaps they should have been a little more insistent that Mr. Trump keep his pants on while posing.

I'm scared my but won't fit in it. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

in my big Ledger of Human Deaths, this checks out

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

you love to see it

A Republican PAC is out with a new ad Thursday slamming former Attorney General Jeff Sessions as a “traitor” as he prepares to announce that he’s running for his old Alabama Senate seat.

“The attorney general said, ‘I’m going to recuse myself,’ and I said, ‘Why the hell didn’t he tell me that before I put him in?’ He’s bad. He’s a bad, bad guy,” President Trump says in the ad, which was put out by GRIT PAC.

“Time for Jeff to hang up the cleats. Say ‘no’ to traitor Jeff Sessions,” a narrator adds at the end of the 15-second clip.

GRIT PAC is an independent expenditure committee associated with former Auburn University head football coach Tommy Tuberville, who is one of several Republicans running for the chance to challenge Sen. Doug Jones (D-Ala.) next year.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

hang up the cleats? was js a high school cornerback or something?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

it's a "running for office" metaphor

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link

they called him Shutdown Sessions

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link

time for jess simsins to THROW IN THE TOWEL on this fandango!!!!!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

Christ Tommy Tuberville.

brownie, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:54 (four years ago) link

that's an example of being willing to let your enemies fight til some gets choked out, regardless of "standards." NB- if tuberville polls better against jones, intervene if u can.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

I got a mailing yesterday from Melania Trump (yeah, right) on behalf of the RNC. On the envelope was written: Check enclosed. As I suspected, the check was made out to The Republican National Committee, not to me. You'd think a cheap stunt like that would irritate the recipients when they eagerly opened it hoping for money. But what surprised me even more was that it was made out for a paltry $45. Why not shoot for the moon, guys?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

$45 as in.....45.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

Ah, it's symbolism! No, on second thought, it's numerology!

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 November 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

It’s faith

For 45 days and 45 nights, ye shall make a contribution of at least $1. The you shall be invited into the group of people who touch each other’s shoulders as they pray

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 7 November 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link


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