ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

i don't really like the yellow stitching so these are nice https://www.drmartens.com/us/en/p/24924001#

ha, I have 3 pairs of docs (regular 8 hole? boots, chelseas and oxfords) and I made sure they don't have the yellow stitching.

my hiking and running shoes are merrells (my feet suck and they are so comfy) and they seem to have normal looking winter boots. The only time my docs are annoying in the rain or snow is around the laces if I am out for more than 20-30 minutes in heavy snow.

u can just color it in w a marker, but on the other hand that is iconic yellow stitching

might i suggest the solovair "docs": https://www.solovairdirect.com/collections/classic/products/solovair-8-eye-derby-in-black

i'm wearing a pair right now. their intertwined history with dr martens is interesting

xpost it's iconic but I cringe away from it. Too much teenage aesthetic with the yellow stitching. My boots and oxfords are from my late 20s and i steered away even then. My somewhat recent chelsea purchase was because my nonbinary optometrist was wearing them and they looked so hot. I thought they were Alexander Wang or Jil Sander and was surprised that they were docs.

https://www.drmartens.com/us/en/p/14649001

My somewhat recent chelsea purchase was because my nonbinary optometrist was wearing them and they looked so hot.

ok well now this makes me want to buy a pair of chelseas

i liked this https://www.vogue.co.uk/fashion/article/zadie-smith-london-new-york-fashion

wow. that’s exhausting just to read. imagine thinking it all the time!

lol that is grotesque

that was really over the top. I haven't read Zadie Smith before and that doesn't make me want to. Some of her observations seem flipped.

i had to look up so many garment definitions just to read that

um wow whos fault is that

it served as a reminder too that i know basically nothing about clothes or fashion beyond "i like the way that looks / i don't like the way that looks"

lol even that distinction i'm not sure always sure about. "i think i don't like the way that looks.... actually it looks good" happens a lot

btw i bought these docs, i haven't worn a pair of docs in 10 years, i'm excited

https://i1.adis.ws/i/drmartens/24924001.80.jpg

I really dislike chelsea boots -- I just don't like the way that side panel thingy looks.

tbh I never even thought about why it was there before, but I guess it makes the boot more flexible and easier to pull on?

yeah

i like chelsea boots but too much of what i wear is so janky and they would seem kind of incongruously dressy in comparison

same

Yeah you don't wanna be that guy who tries to dress up schlub wear with nice shoes/boots

It's very 20-year-old working at best buy but hustling for the management job

it can work but takes some finesse

...some beat up nice shoes perhaps

it took me a while to adjust to dressing appropriately when I moved 5i the West Country. If you go out on a Friday night wearing a collar, you may as well be wearing spatz and a three piece suit. Similarly, London's edgy muted tones make me feel consciously like a circus clown when I travel to the capital

recall convincing a friend to buy some slightly outrageously colored sneakers that he obviously loved soon after he moved to new york, all the while hes muttering about what his friends in the pacific north west wld think of them lol

Love that zadie smith piece and if you think that's too much fashion calculus then you've never done the math and don't realize that others are doing it. Idk London so I can't speak to the individual assessments, but the sense that this observation and calculation is always running in the background is otm.

It's what makes me overpack because I don't know until I get somewhere whether sandals or heels are better, if a shirt jacket is the height of fashion with an arty shawl over it, or if it's subtly too casual.

I once went to a Bronx Italian wedding in a white linen skirt and art jewelry, because it was a summer wedding, it was in the late afternoon in the country, and it was blazing hot. Everyone else was in taffeta and sequins and spike heels and I looked like a complete rube who wandered into what was billed as a "country club" but was actually one of those mirror-ceilinged wedding venues that is neither "country" nor "club." Looking back there was no lasting damage but for the 3 hours I was there it was the worst three hours of my life.

(I blame my then-boyfriend because I repeatedly asked him if it was formal and he apparently couldn't define "formal.")

moving from glasgow to vancouver was definitely a big adjustment for me in terms of what i wear. in glagsow i used to spend lots of money on clothes, generally would be wearing oxford shirts, a nice parka, a merino sweater in the winter, polo shirts in the summer, expensive jeans, adidas tennis shoes in the summer, chukka boots in the winter, nothing too practical or waterproof despite it raining constantly. vancouver i literally wear a north face jacket, a pair of loose fitting wranglers, and some old hi tec hiking boots and i look fine

Nobody in London is impressed by the branded bags, shoes and watches that New York women always look so proud to own and yet whose only possible message to the passing observer is that there’s money in them there hills.

...sounds lovely. After successfully avoiding the name-brand handbag crowd for 20 years in NYC, I'm now plopped down among them in both schools I've worked at. Logo bags and Pandora bracelets mandatory. It's like a sorority, if it were organized around your only interest being Going to The Mall.

my own fashion ignorance aside, there are so many great lines in the zadie smith thing, when she summarizes a type of person & look i can picture exactly who she is talking about

think ive worn a shirt w a collar less than five times in colorado

those doc chelseas (i don't know why they don't have a men's version listed, I remember that they used to because my optometrist and I had a discussion about which ones they were) are really great because they have a nice matte shine and are hefty enough without having a pronounced rubber colored sole. I think the look of a chelsea depends on the toe shape and what trousers are worn with them. I tend to wear high water/stovepipe trousers or high rolled jeans with them. I've worn them to work in a corporate office and also to fine dining restaurants. But I think it matters more what each person is comfortable in. I also like pulling them on without having to deal with laces or zippers. I also was a huge Jam fan at one point in my life.

also, like your docs ourchase, marcos.

The entire time during the zadie piece I kept mentally resetting the people she was likely hanging around in each city because they were not my observations at all.

whoops ourchase ---> purchase
this purchase was collectively ourchase.

I just went back to reread the Zadie Smith piece and just noticed in the middle a link to another recent article "How Dr Martens Boots Became A Model-Off-Duty Staple."

Interestingly elastic sided boots are more work boots or farm boots than smart down here. RM Williams screems farmer in the city like a tattersall shirt would in London, so are worn by types who have never seen a cow but want the look. (Bankers wi Th a country weekender, politicians with big hats)

All the hipster girls seems to be wearing Redback and blundstones right now, in a similar way to yellow stitch DMs

thank you yerac!

i couldn't get past the first paragraph in the zadie smith piece but i never go out and i live in utah. i feel very distantly related to social fashion rules of any kind but on the other hand i'm increasingly drawn to gay as fuq trashion. i've been wearing the same black nasty pig jeans tucked into my black cowboy boots for weeks now. i've had two strangers ask me "where are you from?" out of the blue in the past month lol.

oh and a big-ass black carhartt fleece-lined twill jacket (gold zipper). people call me sir a lot and i roll my eyes haha

um that sounds like GREAT look

omg someone just posted this on fb. Maybe my advice was bad. Ha! ( I think the soles are super grippy!)

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/local-punk-spends-10th-winter-failing-realize-doc-martens-not-winter-boots/

Blundstone's chelsea boots are great in bad weather, and very comfortable for urban walking.

Enjoyed this Elvis Mitchell interview with Todd Snyder, and then looked at his website and really want half the sweaters on there.

https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/the-treatment/todd-snyder

big todd snyder fan here. very cool sweaters and sweatshirts, and i think their jeans and chinos are fantastic.

I don't typically use a term like "self care", but I seriously feel like updating my wardrobe has been necessary self care for me. I recently got these 3 shirts:

Banana Republic Italian Merino Crew-Neck Sweater

Uniqlo Flannel Checked Long-Sleeve Shirt

Lucky Brand Redwood Workwear Shirt

I've been kind of into Ledbury sweaters lately. I bought this one a couple months ago (cheaper than listed here):
https://www.ledbury.com/collections/sweaters/products/the-dark-grey-brewer-mock-neck-sweater

And it's so fucking soft and nice, and I feel like people respond to me differently when I wear it. I call it my "rich guy sweater."

I just ordered myself this one: https://www.ledbury.com/collections/sweaters/products/the-grey-heather-woodside-crew-neck-sweater

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it's christmas HAULZ time, where we return the crap that relatives got us and get the things we really want.

i got a SHIRT-JACKET this way from Aigle, it's this one:
https://www.aigle.com/uk/en/p/ruzuto-I848_poppy.html

snaps instead of buttons and SIDE POCKETS. this guy looks pretty swish in it but i am planning on it being my sawing wood outside etc shirt. it needs to get a little roughed up imo.

poking around the website Aigle apparently do an implausibly comprehensive line of hunting gear: https://www.aigle.com/uk/en/vetement-chasse

shots fired, Barbour! literally!!

man alive, yesterday ^

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