James Gray's "inward-looking" sci-fi film AD ASTRA starring Brad Pitt

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this movie was pretty to look at but i couldn't get past the hokey plotting and cliched character conflicts

davey, Monday, 4 November 2019 09:09 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

this was terrible. so glad I didn't see this in a theater.

akm, Thursday, 26 December 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

it did give a lot of heft to the action/effects episodes tbh. and not sure I would have gotten through some of the other bits in one sitting otherwise.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 December 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

The moon car chase was perfect for a 7am flight from Charlotte to Jacksonville.

Yelploaf, Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

but pointless? who was attacking them? who are we at war with? I could just ignore this if that scene wasn't so long and didn't seem like it was supposed to be important.

the narration was brutal on this, and the final scenes when he reaches dad underwhelming. was there even any revelation there?

akm, Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

wouldn't blowing up the ship powered by anti-matter result in an even bigger electrical surge?

akm, Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

movie needed more natasha lyonne

akm, Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

just smdh

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

who was attacking them? who are we at war with?

this was set up & explained pretty clearly iirc?

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Thursday, 26 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

I don't think the details were spelled out. But there's resources, so there's raiders. That's kinda all there is to it.

Frederik B, Thursday, 26 December 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

I'd like to see Grey's edit before the tentpole stupid was added. I'm 100% certain that only that edit will save the film in future estimation.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Thursday, 26 December 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

#ReleasetheGrayCut

Frederik B, Thursday, 26 December 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

supposedly the stupid action scenes were all in the original; the later cut added the narration and removed footage from non-brad pitt characters.

wasdnuos (abanana), Thursday, 26 December 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

lol, this was stunningly dumb and i almost quit but then SPACE MONKEYS and that was the one hat tip too many to suggest that everyone's fully aware they're on their bullshit. the "plot" hit really really close to home with my own daddy issues but come the fuck on with these metaphors. As a weird take on 40's/50's sci-fi, okay but why?

Obvs the visuals and effects (including Pitt in full on Keanu uncarved block mode and TL Jones as old man skeletor who never loved you) were outrageously good, mostly enough to keep me engaged when I wasn't shaking my head at the nonsense in general.

my opinion lies somewhere between latebloomers "impeccably crafted bourgie horseshit" and Fred's "i love that it just dives headfirst into banality." I'd likely need to watch it again to clarify but you've got to be kidding me, there is no way i'm watching this madness twice in a world so filled with other things to do.

I genuinely started laughing at the mars recording studio... with red rock baffles!
http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/10418278a.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

i do wish i'd seen it in theaters if i was gonna see it.... that made gravity a fun watch and it likely woulda helped this. I woulda likely nodded off at the end regardless.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

killer soundtrack tho! will listen again.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

the space baboons were lab animals from Earth, no one else is saying anything different, right

"a world so filled with other things to do" is a strange concept in an era when ppl are watching last summer's Tarantella movie 5+ times

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

Those were space monkeys; I am willing to stake my reputation on it.

It’s very rare that I do an immediate rewatch of any film; I could see trying this again if it were in theaters in maybe, oh, five years.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

last year's Tarantino movie is 10x better than this was, jesus.

akm, Sunday, 29 December 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

akm otm

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 December 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

i'll assume youre wrong

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 December 2019 06:50 (four years ago) link

I'll take a self-indulgent/butchered by the studios mess by a good director over anything fucking Tootsie Tarantino does 4eva!

calzino, Sunday, 29 December 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Kinda got overlooked I like this movie quite a bit for what it was, Hollywood outer space pop psych... Sound design was fantastic.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 05:33 (four years ago) link

Finally got around to this - a bit ponderous but ultimately solid. Of the nu-ratpack space movies was definitely the best or, at least, the one with the most ideas and best visual + sound design.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

yeah i liked this a lot more than i expected to

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

seemed to draw from various New Wave sf deconstructions of the space program - Moorcock's Black Corridor, various Malzberg books (Beyond Apollo, etc.), but I think Morbz is also correct about the debt to Westerns

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just saw this, it was phenomenally stupid. I liked the way it paid the smallest attention to some aspects of physics but completely fucked up almost everything else. Praise for being one of the rare vacuum-is-silent brigade, though.
Voiceover was terrible and ponderous. Pitt's line deliveries also often unintentionally funny.
Also like the way when they meet the space baboon they don't even bother looking for the people presumably also on the space station (unless baboon sent the SOS itself because it was bored).
What the fuck did Tommy Lee Jones eat all those years? His station was tiny.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 30 January 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link

yes, worst movie I saw last year by some distance.

akm, Thursday, 30 January 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link

nice to read wrongness

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 January 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link

It looked nice and I think there’s a seed of a good movie there, but yeah, it is not great. B-rate Malick voiceovers maybe a big part of what dropped it.

circa1916, Thursday, 30 January 2020 02:06 (four years ago) link

Gray >> Malick this decade

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 January 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link

indubitably

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 January 2020 02:31 (four years ago) link

I want a panel show with Morbs and Alfred now

babu frik fan account (mh), Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:20 (four years ago) link

pay us!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link

He and I meet in Manhattan twice a year.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link

lol

I'm behind on 2019 films, but I've put this at the top of my cue

Dan S, Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:24 (four years ago) link

the Morbs-Lord Sotosyn doc?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:25 (four years ago) link

I'd make all my film-loving (hating?) friends throw a pittance at a patreon

I've got a dozen or so

babu frik fan account (mh), Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:26 (four years ago) link

He and I meet in Manhattan twice a year.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 29, 2020 8:21 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'd buy tickets to this

gbx, Thursday, 30 January 2020 03:28 (four years ago) link

I am going to choose to read that as a tryst

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 January 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link

no, my hair isn't good enough for him

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 January 2020 04:13 (four years ago) link

I mean, I know the fans here want this to be something with fucking, but I just want pure snark. Which is dirtier tbh

babu frik fan account (mh), Thursday, 30 January 2020 04:18 (four years ago) link

ad astra - visually stunning, some great scenes, some of the most heavy-handed "meaningfulness" i've ever seen in a movie (e.g. when brad and his dad are clinging to each other in space at the end and tommy lee jones says "you have to let me go" and a big blinking neon subtitle comes up that says HE DOESN'T JUST MEAN PHYSICALLY LET HIM GO HE ALSO MEANS EMOTIONALLY as tommy lee jones winks at the camera), overall pretty dumb and a step down from lost city of z

na (NA), Thursday, 30 January 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

(e.g. when brad and his dad are clinging to each other in space at the end and tommy lee jones says "you have to let me go" and a big blinking neon subtitle comes up that says HE DOESN'T JUST MEAN PHYSICALLY LET HIM GO HE ALSO MEANS EMOTIONALLY as tommy lee jones winks at the camera)

lol yes, this gave me a severe pain

Miami weisse (WmC), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

lol @ neon subtitle

babu frik fan account (mh), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

I am not afraid to admit that I enjoy a movie where there is SPACEYELLING at SPACEDAD

also SPACE APES

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:22 (four years ago) link

and of course SPACE MADNESS

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link

ad astra - visually stunning, some great scenes, some of the most heavy-handed "meaningfulness" i've ever seen in a movie (e.g. when brad and his dad are clinging to each other in space at the end and tommy lee jones says "you have to let me go" and a big blinking neon subtitle comes up that says HE DOESN'T JUST MEAN PHYSICALLY LET HIM GO HE ALSO MEANS EMOTIONALLY as tommy lee jones winks at the camera), overall pretty dumb and a step down from lost city of z

― na (NA), Thursday, January 30, 2020 8:52 AM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is basically otm, even though i am generally pretty lenient when it comes to visually stunning space movies

maybe i should see lost city of z??

gbx, Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:31 (four years ago) link

yes you should

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 January 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link


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