A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

It's already being reviewed, e.g.: Death Stranding is a long, bizarre journey that’s both breathtaking and boring

i’m down for playing anything Kojima puts out but i have the chance to play games so infrequently these days i have no idea when i’m gonna find the time to put 50 hours into a stumbling simulator

sounds like at its core it's one of those 'satisfaction via overcoming frustrating limitations' games but with a shared-world twist (have seen QWOP namechecked in multiple impressions, of all things)

wth this has me intrigued now:

Its most recurring visual motif is a not-so-subtle gesture towards Thomas Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow.

"Everything past page 100 of the manual is printed blank"

since constructs that can help other players are shared between contacts, do we need an ilx ps4 contact list?

I ask only because I haven’t added any ps4 friends at all and should get on it — I have only one local friend on my pa4 contacts and he plays all older games

From Kotaku:

As I understand it, the game sort of culls the potential objects you see. It prioritizes friends and “stand connections” that you make (which is basically like, the in game version of a friend) and then kinda pulls from a mixture of what is highest rated and what also happens to be around your general vicinity.

50 hours might be much for me (I still haven't even beaten Link's Awakening!) but eh, maybe i'm in on this

i'm not gonna play it for a while sorry you'll have to do without my poorly placed ladders

Death Stranding is a game that demands to be argued over and analyzed for years. It starts rough, and then gets better and better as it goes along, culminating in an ending that is both hugely important to its universe, and also very small and personal to Sam. It has big ideas for things it wants to say, and then it layers them in with heavy-handed messages about togetherness and bonding with your fellow man. It’s also a story about the reconstruction of America that takes place in a world that bears absolutely no physical resemblance to the real America, lending it all an allegorical tone that allows some of its metaphors and weird imagery to breathe in a way they might not if this were a more “normal” or “realistic” game. It’s hard to say if it’s fun, and it’s hard to say if it’s a good game, but it is undeniably interesting in a way that not enough games try to be. If you buy in to what it’s trying to do—if you allow it to make that connection—Death Stranding will stick with you, one way or another.

https://games.avclub.com/death-stranding-is-an-allegory-for-a-broken-america-an-1839481823?utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_content=Main

oh no!!

paging sic ;_;

https://games.avclub.com/death-stranding-is-an-allegory-for-a-broken-america-an-1839481823

If you buy in to what it’s trying to do—if you allow it to make that connection—

so cheesy in the context of the review (which is otherwise pretty good), which criticizes the game's heavyhanded message about the importance of making connections

but anyway, this certainly does sound...interesting. a lot of the gameplay seems to revolve around navigating the terrain.

I survived Killer7 and loved it despite its flaws, somebody needs to tell me if it's worse than that

I love the fact that you’re supposed to be traversing America but the landscape is essentially Iceland.

I’m sort of a masochist when it comes to video games so if I literally have to miserably crawl through mud and rocks at the get-go if I sense a grander ~vision~ at play, I’m more intrigued than turned off.

The ~vision~ will undoubtedly be mostly nonsensical and ridiculous knowing Kojima, but an expensive AAA prestige project like this that seems deliberately anti-fun is kinda rad and likely never to be seen again so I feel like I have to give some time and money to it.

yeah, i'm thinking the same, but i will probably wait for a price drop all the same

will pick it up once they’ve patched in some gameplay

planning on spending my thanksgiving showing how I’m thankful for Hideo Kojima

Lol I’ve spent some time watching video reviews and I’m maybe less gung-ho. Might be a “buy at $30” person as well.

sounds tedious as fuck

i watched the entire tim rogers review and bought a ps4 pro

lol nice

sony should give him a raise for sure

thanks for the review mention, adam. a couple minutes in and it’s already pretty great

oh god he's going to reuse the pissing and toenail clips every two minutes throughout, isn't he?

i don't consider myself to be overly squeamish but i had to turn it off early because of that

lol i had to look away every time for the toenail, it was at least a dozen times

stop being taking the abuse by that charlatan

jesus, this review is towering and makes me want to both preorder it and start an online letter writing campaign against it at the same time

deliberately anti-fun seems accurate; it's amazing how much money kojima gets to make these things he's a glitch in the machine and no wonder that's what he makes.

similar situation to twin peaks s3 but for games and probably not as good

tim's complaint that, while the game gives you the option to take a shit for full character immersion, when he makes the character eat nonstop for a month but never take a shit yet there's never any repercussions or in game results is at the heart of why i don't like RDR2. You can do anything but nothing matters. It's astonishingly complex but then a horse appears in midair for no reason. Kojima takes his shit less seriously, less macho focused and more gonzo than rockstar and that somehow works better for me.
Anyway, i'm sure i will pay for this and will probably hate it but so fascinating that it exists.

i mean he's calling it a Seamless delivery person RPG set in the Stalker universe and fuck i guess that's what i'll be doing for the christmas holiday

"Death Stranding is basically 'Andrei Tarkovsky's Super Mario Brothers the Movie: the Videogame'"
i mean are you in my head right now

love Tim Rogers but you'd have to pay me to play that game lol, like it's Journey's 90 minutes stretched out over 50 monotonous hours

so you're saying you ARE in my head right now

msotly i want to support the monster energy brand family

Good post forks

Ha, in the Tim Rogers review he estimates it took him about 20 *hours* to get into the swing of things, then quotes Kojima saying it only gets fun at about the *halfway point.* If Rogers says the game took him about 80 hours, that puts it around *40 hours* until it gets "fun." Or, you know, somewhere between 20 and 40 hours. Which is a heck of a curve!

i wouldn't assume the game is 80 hours, tim is a slowgamer. he said DQXI was 100 hours and i finished that in 50-60

60 hours is a number I've seen a lot of, so that is probably more accurate at a good pace. But then we're still talking a couple of dozen hours to get into the swing of things, and/or "fun."

Which lol is probably my usually pace for all games!

Why does Tim Rogers sound like a permanently-sarcastic Nolan-Batman?

that's the "american explaining art/culture" voice imo

Close cousin of the 'American podcast' voice, eh? It's quite annoying. Even when he's being sincere it's hard to take him seriously

I'm likely never playing this game but I also watched that entire video review.

good combination imo