Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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was typing in word with track changes running and was getting pissed at the latency screwing up my flow. granted, turning off track changes sped up the response, but it reminded me of this article from a little while back:

https://gizmodo.com/the-one-way-your-laptop-is-actually-slower-than-a-30-ye-1821608743

andrew m., Friday, 1 November 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

Latency is also a big issue with audio sequencing and electronic music-making. Modern audio sequencers for Windows or MacOS sit on top of a complex operating system that manages everything with APIs, so they can't communicate directly with the bare metal. The greater speed of modern hardware compensates for the layers of abstraction but even small delays can sound off.

Early drum machines used a simple clock trigger input as a synchronisation source - essentially a sharp CLICK! - and because the machines didn't have an abstraction layer they responded more or less instantly to clock inputs. Before MIDI was introduced in the 1980s synthesisers used CV/Gate to communicate with each other. It was a mixture of control voltages and click pulses that responded at the speed of light without having to pass through an 8-bit CPU first. Vince Clarke famously gave up on MIDI in the 1990s because he felt that it had a jittery clock, and if there were a lot of MIDI devices in a chain the jitter became noticeable.

There has been a resurgence in CV/Gate over the last few years. In the late-80s-90s-early 2000s it was dead as doornail. A bunch of modern retro analogue synthesisers have CV/Gate ports, and Arturia and others sell modern sequencers with CV/Gate outputs. Korg's battery-powered Volca instruments have simple clock trigger inputs, as do the Teenage Engineering Pocket Operators. Here's a video I did a while back where all the instruments are being driven by CV/Gate or clock trigger pulses coming from an ancient Power Macintosh G5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRj2AOxwK5E

Digital audio sequencers also have trouble with latency. Again it's less of an issue than it was in the 2000s, but if you mix virtual and live instruments it can get awkward. In the early days of VST instruments a lot of musicians still hung on to Atari STs driving Akai samplers because the latency was lower; the ST still has a tiny cult following today because the signal path is basically Cubase -> MIDI Out -> Instrument rather than Cubase -> I/O buffers -> Windows I/O APIs -> Windows sound subsystem.

Ashley Pomeroy, Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

this right here is a motherfuckin POST

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

In the late-80s-90s-early 2000s

During which electronic music all sounded terrible because of “jittery clocks”

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

xxpost

Awesome post!

beard papa, Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

I can highly recommend an Innerclock Systems Syncgen pro to fix sync issues. Cost about £300 on Ebay and fixed all my issues syncing a load of Elektron boxes to Ableton back when I was doing live pa stuff. Total liberty having to do that in this day and age though!

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

I would legit pay £50 to have every device I ever use accept (the lowest level of) all cookies for lyfe without me having to click anything

kinder, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

my niece from abroad has been travelling round Europe and since she came to the UK she thought there was some setting broken on her phone due to constantly being asked to accept cookies
Also lots of US sites I can't access "due to GDPR"

kinder, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

i still can't read the ny daily news

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

I'm consistently shocked by how many mobile websites remain unnavigable garbage. The format has been around for a while now, y'all.

Maybe you wanna lay off the Mountain Dew, there, Burt. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

I miss cartoons, like actual cartoons as opposed to super-creepy uncanny valley 3D-rendered affairs where everyone and everything looks like custom fetishware

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

I have got used to the experience of clicking a link to a mobile website and getting an opaque grey box covering the text and stopping me from scrolling. I have no idea whether it's a pop up ad or a cookie or gdpr thing. Won't even bother clicking NYT or Times links any more.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

I miss cartoons, like actual cartoons as opposed to super-creepy uncanny valley 3D-rendered affairs where everyone and everything looks like custom fetishware

I feel ya but I don't think this counts as a technological backward step so much as us not keeping up with the aesthetics of the time, sadly.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

They redid the bathrooms at work so now when I'm sitting and move slightly it will flush automatically, resulting in 2-3 flushes per event rather than the usual 1.

joygoat, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

Exact same here. Bloody things.

stet, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link

clicking on a headline and google opening an app or a formatted-for phone-page with a load of pain in the ass features

deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

They redid the bathrooms at work so now when I'm sitting and move slightly it will flush automatically, resulting in 2-3 flushes per event rather than the usual 1.


Auto flushing toilets scare my kid, so I drape a small piece of tissue over the sensor.

beard papa, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

I have got used to the experience of clicking a link to a mobile website and getting an opaque grey box covering the text and stopping me from scrolling.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l1BgRViJVF8ZW686s/giphy.gif

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

I miss cartoons, like actual cartoons as opposed to super-creepy uncanny valley 3D-rendered affairs where everyone and everything looks like custom fetishware

I feel ya but I don't think this counts as a technological backward step so much as us not keeping up with the aesthetics of the time, sadly.

― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Oh yeah, totes mcgroats, and I realise I'm shouting at cluods here. But at the same time, it does mean that anything created on a computer a few years ago will look weird and dated. And I'm just not into nightmare dummy replicants walking around. I do like how the 'hauntology' aesthetic has moved from 70s stop-animation shows to the stilted polygons of original Playstation games. Vaporwave being the little brother of hauntology.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

They redid the bathrooms at work so now when I'm sitting and move slightly it will flush automatically, resulting in 2-3 flushes per event rather than the usual 1.

They have motion sensors on the lights here, so if you sit there for too long you're plunged into darkness. And the sensor is outside the cubicle, so you can imagine the scenarios...

fetter, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

lmao

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

wmab

deems of internment (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link

Remove sock, roll up sock, toss over the cubicle door

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

no thats when you discover theres no loo roll iirc

deems of internment (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link

I stayed at an airbnb that apparently had a motion light in the bathroom! I had to wave my arm to let it know I was still on the toilet.

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

Ugh i hate those.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

Thirty seconds ago:

-wave hand in front of faucet sensor
-water comes out of faucet
-wave hand in front of soap sensor
-soap comes out of dispenser
-lather
-wave hand in front of faucet sensor
-soap squirts into sink
-wave hand in front of faucet sensor
-more soap squirts into sink
-wave hand more fervently in front of faucet sensor
-soap puddle achieves volume sufficient to begin slowly running towards drain
-wave hand dejectedly in front of faucet sensor until the futility of doing so finally sinks in
-look into mirror
-sigh heavily
-water comes out of faucet without sensor being directly engaged

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

this is why you should never wash your hands

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

This is what I get for trying something new.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

When i shake someone's hand and it's soapy, i always know who couldn't get the sensor to work

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

the case for never washing your hands is only getting stronger

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

Imo BYOS

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

One thing it took me a long time to realize is that most sensor-activated faucets work better if you simply hold your hands still in front of the sensor instead of waving them.

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

How about kicking them hard, does that help

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

we'll just all have an easier time if we learn to serve the machines, guys

maffew12, Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Best thing to do is stay perfectly still. If you startle the sensor it may summon a security bear

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

we're through the restroom glass people

maffew12, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

I stayed at an airbnb that apparently had a motion light in the bathroom! I had to wave my arm to let it know I was still on the toilet.

― mh, Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:01 AM (yesterday)

i think it was akm a while back who posted about it, but some of these things are now written into building codes to be "energy efficient" -- maybe this is some Berkeley, CA specific thing, because I don't think this is a requirement in Oakland (the next city over, same county)

sarahell, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

Smacking the faucets doesn't work, but smacking the sensor paper towel dispensers absolutely does work, without fail!

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

abuse yr appliances before they can abuse you

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

i know this might be overgeneralizing a bit, but in response to OP, can i submit the entirety of the years 2000-present? basically this whole century so far.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

falling down the stairs is not a "backward" step, exactly, but it is still bad

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

this fucking headphone jack thing i think about very often, that was a dumb move apple

marcos, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

I just watched a man eat a sandwich on YouTube and I'm having complex thoughts

maffew12, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

I seen a man die

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

the continuing erosion of anonymous/pseudonymous space online. This is bad and people will realise how bad when it’s eventually gone.

― gyac, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 06:26 (three months ago)

meaulnes, Thursday, 14 November 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

i think it was akm a while back who posted about it, but some of these things are now written into building codes to be "energy efficient"

yah this is starting to bubble up here http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2019/11/complaints-at-broadway-building-part-of-pushback-over-adding-smart-lock-and-home-automation-tech-to-apartments/

alomar lines, Friday, 15 November 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link

Regarding the various sensors and systemps in public bathrooms' sinks nowadays, it's become so complex to find out which system you're facing (hand sensors located in various places, foot button, leg bar, actual thing to touch/turn/push on the faucet, etc).
Often it takes me a little while to understand what to do (and often I have to help people besides me who can't find out) !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 15 November 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

My auxiliary toilet across the street at the Convention Center flushes each time I make a motion. I can see why these things are in there for possible health reasons, but don't even try to bring the environment into it.

We've got two paper towel rollers in our restroom that are sensor-controlled. So now, not only are we killing trees, but we're using lithium or whatever to distribute them. Best part is when the battery goes in and none of us can dry our hands properly.

The day I see this done on a toilet paper dispenser, I'm just going to ... shit.

pplains, Friday, 15 November 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link


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