ok lets all shit our pants to something old: pre-2006 horror film thread

I bet Parker & Stone have seen every film like that.

i really like that video and have found myself mumbling ur a cooooooool dude got your bs in social psy today

tales from the crypt: demon knight is an AWESOME movie

Eve Of Ivan Kupalo - Based on a Gogol fairy tale. I could only see this in a crappy version on youtube subtitled in French but it is still quite striking at times with the sense of design, rapid cuts that shift characters across the screen in different positions, that weird crowing laugh of the old man played several times, characters tilting on the ground and it may be partly the poor quality of the version I seen, but I was wondering how on earth they achieved the scene of the woman darting around the forest.

Anyone know about Church Of Film? It moves around a few locations in Portland, and from the youtube

Agggh, I hadn't finished!

Muriel Lucas's youtube channel has such an incredible array of obscurities that I'd love to see. As much as I like all sorts of cult films, I've never considered myself much of a cineaste or cinema goer, but I'd feel very lucky to be near enough to regular showings like this and I'm sure I would actually go to see them. Any of you been to them?

http://churchoffilm.org/index.html

This trailer proves there is a superior print of the film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeSyPHfBFko

Check out the selection of trailers on the channel, it's incredible.

Here's a trailer for Mister Designer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2-BWVmi6Ps

I got the Lost Soul documentary bluray for the extra interviews and it was worth it. Comes across even more how incessant Stanley is when he talks and how much he had thought about absolutely everything; seems to regret not taking a chance on Judge Dredd though there were was already serious script problems to deal with. Barbara Steele (in audio only) says she was at a disturbing dinner party with Frankenheimer but stops there.

Have you seen The Otherworld? Peak Stanley.

Stoked there's talk of it being a Lovecraft trilogy after the reception Colour out of Space has got.

Last week I passed up the chance to meet Luigi Cozzi because his wife was really vague about when he was coming into the shop other than "5, maybe half past" and it wasn't 3 yet. (And I didn't think making my wife hang about for hours to watch me shake the hand of a guy she'd barely heard of would win me many brownie points.)

I've got The Otherworld and White Darkness on my wishlist.

Barbara Steele (in audio only) says she was at a disturbing dinner party with Frankenheimer but stops there.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, November 17, 2019 2:20 PM

I should add that she had more to say about him and there was no implication that he was the disturbing part of that dinner.

"A Woman Sobbing" episode of Dead Of Night -
I'm fairly sure this is a riff on Gilman's "Yellow Wallpaper"; Gaslight is referenced a few times. Intelligent script and very 70s.

george romero's season of the witch aka hungry wives is on shudder and is nearly as brilliant as martin imo, check it out

Uh...how the hell is Romero's Season of the Witch not more of a thing?!? I always thought it looked/sounded intersting but I'm shocked to discover that this obscure thing is one of his very best films. Certainly one of the best acted. Only caveat wrt this particular thread is that it's barely horror, but big thumbs up.

― Dethloaf LLC (Old Lunch), Tuesday, April 17, 2018 5:29 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

omg i LOVE that one
my favorite non-Dead old Romero!!

Nighbreed (director's cut) - So strange to see Cronenberg as a proper main character in a film but I like him in this role. Noting the LGBT theme, I wonder if this was a sort of callback to Michael Caine Dressed To Kill?
I liked it okay but it runs into that problem of lots of science fiction tv shows and creature filled b-movies do: there's often an unimpressive lumpy face look to piled on prosthetics; still preferable to cgi.

The Inferno / Hell / Jigoku (1979) - Another bizarrely underseen old Japanese horror film; and Kumashiro is one of the most important Japanese directors of his time who somehow hasn't travelled abroad like his peers.
This is far better than the 1960 Nakagawa version (which has some great scenes but a bit boring overall) and the 1999 Teruo Ishii version (declining director on shoestring budget), by quite some distance. Far more ambitious, more stages to it and more serious.
This time it's about a girl reliving her mother's life, possibly possessed by her. Nearly everyone in the film goes to hell. Much more sex than the other films.

I particularly liked it when the daughter looks down into hell at her mother. Lots of nice mountain scenery. Uses similar effects to the Nakagawa film in the hell scenes, but bigger demons.
But how does Shima die in the basement? She was left there for a short time.
Hako Yamasaki contributes some songs which make the film seem several years older than it is.

Didn’t know extended nightbreed had happened

I actually hadn't seen the theatrical version. Also new to me was that Barker intended this to be the first part of a franchise, but since he never wrote any prose sequels I'm guessing it would have been just like his comics lines and Hellraiser film sequels: probably for extra income and to give his buddies work.
The cop rubbing his lips against a choking wire was funny.

Still cant wrap my head around why so many good Japanese horror films from 50s-80s don't get English releases. A very strange blind spot for horror film fans, of all places. The Inferno is growing on me in the days after seeing it.

I loved Nightbreed when I was a kid - I had the game for the spectrum! And the later, flawed Amiga game.

http://www.hammerfilms.com/10-unmade-hammer-films/
Kali project is news to me, could have been interesting, probably a bit awful.

I want to see all these, best channel!

Feather Fairy, Millennial Bee and Snow Queen (1986)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxzNHxA0t-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg8IYfF-VpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acfI4ryt6kM

getting midsommar vibes off the snow queen there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=VYNrIVKuaio

Sorry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYNrIVKuaio

"Iconic" is a very overrated quality but I really don't think the 80s beats the 30s for that.

Muriel Lucas's channel has been deleted for repeated nudity/sex violations. This is extremely shit and a bit suspicious, I don't recall anything that could have got her banned and youtube tends to be more tolerant of nudity/sex in the context of old films.

A Criterion box set called When Horror Came To Shochiku

X From Outer Space - a space exploration film that turns into a kaiju film halfway through. I think it is considered a joke among kaiju fans and I say it's for completists only. Really boring.

Goke: Body Snatcher From Hell - Some seem to really love this. Outside the bizarre images of slime going in or coming out people's foreheads, I think it's just a serviceable paranoid survival story.

Living Skeleton - Quite stylish black and white and I'm always happy to see Ko Nishimura but I didn't get much out of it sadly.

Genocide - More consistently interesting than the others, but I still wouldn't recommend it much. But the only film I've seen with a femme fatale mad scientist holocaust survivor.

I warn you about this set. I'm aware Criterion probably knew they weren't great but it is quite annoying when there are so many other more deserving japanese horror films of this era. Why did it need to be 4 discs, surely it could have all fit on one or two discs?

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Along Unknown Paths - Based on popular children's books by Eduard Uspenskiy. Who knows why Russian Cinema Council put this on their label of classics? Aside from some fun things like a house that moves like a train, it's awful. Some familiar characters like Baba Yaga and Vasilisa, so I dont know how much of the good things are established fairy tales, how much is Uspenskiy and how much is original to the film. I'd get rid of this if it didn't have Aksyuta being so adorable.

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Catherine Breillat directed.

Bluebeard - I'm interested in how Breillat seems to deliberately avoid any suspense, see how it cuts when Bluebeard chases his young bride up the stairs?
I have no idea why the mother at the end doesn't respond at all to her daughter's fall.

Sleeping Beauty - The made for tv style taken a bit of getting used to. Parts of Snow Queen are equally important.
Thanks to Zaharoff for this one, I wasn't previously aware of it.

Also saw her film The Last Mistress (period film without any overt horror or fairy stuff; overt horror debatable though), which was probably the best of them.

Lumikuningatar / The Snow Queen (1986) - A Finnish version of the story that makes the Snow Queen and the witch pedophiles. There's a song an hour in that seems like it was from a musical version that never happened, it feels out of place with the whole aesthetic.
The visuals alternate between looking gorgeous and well designed and looking cheap and under budget. I could never decide if I actually liked the Snow Queen's hair or thought it was too ridiculous.
The story feels a bit lifeless and poorly paced, which is a shame because the quality of the images and the brilliant main theme music deserved better.
Ultimately I'd recommend it, it's not hard to find on dvd, there's a few editions with english subtitles.

I was annoyed because the used disc I had looked like it had been on the floor of a chicken and dog fighting arena for years, but it played fine.

The Living Corpse - This is a 1967 black and white Dracula adaptation from Pakistan. Atypical elements including the vampire as a scientist looking for eternal life and inadvertently creating the vampire race; a car chase and of course songs and dances (some of it even sounded like surf music).
It's just okay, most of the enjoyment for me was seeing the fashions and dances of the actresses.

This was a Mondo Macabro dvd, they released a bunch of other south asian horror films (why has nobody else bothered?); there's a short Making Of documentary and another documentary about south asian horror films and violent action films (some interesting talk of the tragic bad girl and big action mother tropes), it's not much over 20 mintues but I wish it had been longer.
Might watch the commentary.

I really like the Living Corpse, the dance sequences are probably the best part though I agree.

Funniest thing in the Making Of/retrospective was that the censors only allowed the film a release if they promised they'd never make another film like it.

The Mondo Macabro collections of Ramsay brothers films are just a bit too pricy. They are listed on amazon prime but only one seems to be viewable right now.

Mondo Macabro released Woman Chasing The Butterfly Of Death months ago and Grady Hendrix said it is a towering monument of weirdness.
https://vimeo.com/341846045

I had no idea there was a Paul Nachy werewolf vs samurais film: Beast And The Magic Sword.
https://vimeo.com/347761901

Somewhere quite far upthread, years ago I said how much a second viewing of Coppola's Dracula stunned me; some of you really liked it too and now I've seen quite a few people talking about how great it is. Has there been a big change in how people view it?

I still think it's more a great collection of scenes than a great story.

I disavow what I said near the start of the thread about conservative horror in Hammer horror films and Blood On Satan's Claw, that was quite a reductive and simplistic way to look at it.

Coppola’s Dracula is a blast

I don't remember why - maybe it was Keanu's performance - it really turned me off when it came out. I saw a screening a couple years ago and can appreciate it just on a visual level, and Oldman was great.

I saw some trailers for Freaked years ago and was never interested and I had never liked anything I'd seen from Red Letter Media but this episode was fookin' brilliant. Can't believe all the people who were involved in this film, including the soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gk8cHCo4Y

Some of the animation techniques shown are stunning. Liked the line about the milkmen.

Freaked - Liked this, it is constantly silly and I laughed out loud a few times. Butthole Surfers (Gibby makes a short acting appearance too) and Blind Idiot God are most of the soundtrack.

been watching a lot of full moon features films lately and having a great trashy direct-to-video time. i looove the subspecies movies, they are absolutely part of the black metal canon

bloodstone: subspecies 2 is legitimately a great movie with really awesome gross practical effects, it's the only full moon movie i've seen so far that feels theatrical

a lot of full moon movies are free to watch on tubi btw

Madhouse (1981) - This was pretty decent in most respects, the crazy sister was genuinely creepy in two parts, BUT I've never seen a film so wrecked by one lousy character: the priest! He's a pain in the ass. Has that type of wholesomely-goofy-twisted-into-sinister schtick ever worked in anything? Were these characters trying to copy The Shining when Nicholson is going on about little pigs? That was one of many things I disliked about Stephen King's novel IT.

i rewatched hellraiser recently and, while the character design holds up, nostalgia didn't carry it through for me. Barely coherent story, really bad acting, confusing and occasionally scare-ruining direction, often pretty boring!

that's a shame. to me those creature effects will always hold. JESUS WEPT!

ah man hellraiser is rad

hellraiser 2 even radder

I did the SHUDDER free trial and watched a bunch of old 80s horror I've never seen, including "Chopping Mall" which turned out to be hilarious and awesome and I will now stan it unto death.

xpost Yeah, I think forks saw the wrong movie or something. It's a ramshackle affair at times but still v good and effective.

chopping mall fuckin rules!!!