Star Wars Anthology shit talk (Rogue One, Young Solo, TBD)

ig-88-style killbot

this 1.5 seconds had me the most hyped of any star wars stuff I've seen in ages - I was totally obsessed with IG-88 when I was a kid a and the five seconds of screen time in empire didn't come anywhere close to satisfying me.

Also as someone who has zero knowledge of non-film star wars canon, is carbon freezing for transfer by bounty hunters an actual thing? I always thought it was something they did to han solo out of necessity - like fuck it, we've got this carbon freezer, maybe this will work?

totally. see also, obi-wan's "blast helmet plus lightsaber" one-off from the first film, rendered as a standard three-credit tuesday/thursday class with Yoda in the prequels

^^ otm, the carbon freezing thing is what bugged me most about it. BUT given the setting of the show five years after ROTJ, I'm wondering if Boba Fett spent some time telling his bounty hunter buddies how convenient of a method it is before his untimely demise.

Also otm re excitement for IG-11 (iirc). That had me really excited and my 8 year-old nearly jumped off the floor with excitement ("IG-88! IG-88! IG-88!"). And I know it's boring to hear, but it does really make me feel far kinder to the franchise when I get to watch him geek out over it in unexpected ways.

this 1.5 seconds had me the most hyped of any star wars stuff I've seen in ages - I was totally obsessed with IG-88 when I was a kid a and the five seconds of screen time in empire didn't come anywhere close to satisfying me.

Also as someone who has zero knowledge of non-film star wars canon, is carbon freezing for transfer by bounty hunters an actual thing? I always thought it was something they did to han solo out of necessity - like fuck it, we've got this carbon freezer, maybe this will work?

― joygoat, Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:28 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

As an IG-88 fan with zero knowledge of non-film SW canon, might I direct you to the anthology of short stories entitled Tales of the Bounty Hunters, I think you will be pleased by elevation of a certain character's role in the franchise.

Seconded, that book was great. That's the very same story that made me an IG-88 fan.

IG-88 used to freak me out in the Dash Rendar N64 game

I think one of the worst things about Star Wars across the last 40 years has been the steady erosion of believability - as a kid (7 in ‘77) I absolutely felt these movies were glimpses of a larger world, and the idea that we would someday see e.g. the Clone Wars or the Mandalorian on TV would have blown my mind. Sometime around the prequels it devolved into eh, just some starwarsy shit someone made up. The expanded universe bullshit is a major player in that dilution. You could attribute it to me having better critical faculties at 49 than at 7 but I’m not sure you’d be right.

Nah, I think it's a thing with all of this fun junk that gets endlessly spun out without ever really exceeding the bounds of its initial concept. Like I watched The Terminator last night, and it's great! And that's probably all we ever needed! Particularly when each additional iteration acts like the entire universe revolves around the Connor family and whatever robots they happen to be encountering in a given moment. There's a whole world beyond those two people, y'all.

I think the key selling point for carbonite cell was that, aside from presumably low maintenance costs, your captive is suspended with some pained expression ideal for crimelords to show off as a deterrent. It would be weird if throughout the SW Exp-U it had never been used on anyone but Solo, would be cool with seeing it in The Mandalorian.

I think C3P0's comments implied that carbonite freezing was relatively safe and not uncommon, although without referring to bounty hunter captures

The Bespin industrial facility wasn't really set up for freezing people, though. Maybe gases?

If it was a regular practice you'd think crimelords would get creative with it, maybe put their captives in like the Coppertone baby pose before hitting the freeze button, something super humiliating like that.

I'm wondering if Boba Fett spent some time telling his bounty hunter buddies how convenient of a method it is before his untimely demise.

I'm picturing him presenting a paper at a conference where like zuckuss calls him out for using too small of a sample size and storms out while a bunch of young bounty hunters start looking for vc funding and plan their ted talk about disrupting the bounty hunting business

if that's what The Mandalorian is like i guess i'm signing up for D+

I'm still planning on ditching verizon's overpriced phone service at some point, but apparently I might get D+ "free" with my plan for now? hrrm

the Blank Check podcast's Patreon feed just did a commentary-track episode, where they watched Rogue One with one of the screenwriters, Chris Weitz. pretty interesting if you're into the behind-the-scenes of this stuff.... he doesn't drop any gossip bombshells, and he is polite and professional about his role as someone brought in to work on a project on which someone else had already done writing, and which in turn was passed on to other people after his tenure. but you get a lot of little things about directions he was taking the story, stuff he thought was cool and put in, etc. i'll share just one tidbit (for fear of undermining their patreon efforts) - - -in his draft, Kassian was an Imperial double-agent, who was initially with the group only because Saw Gerrera's extremist rebellion methods had led to the death of his wife (or his family... something like that). so his initial goal is just to get to Gerrera and get revenge. i liked hearing this because i always thought Gerrera's "too extreme" tactics were very vague, along with the whole rest of his role.

Whitaker's bizarre performance vs Del Toro's annoying one in a nu-SW walk-on guest-off

Whitaker's all day.

I'd rank Whitaker as the number 2 most off-putting element of nu-SW behind the blue milk thing

Saw Gerrera is a The Clone Wars deep cut, no?

Exactly

I guess I need to get into clone wars

in my mind's eye, whitaker was great. i also thought del toro was fun tbh. casting has for the most part not been an issue in these movies - their bigger problem is wasting great performances by leaving them on the cutting room floor.

rewatching Rogue One for at least the fourth time. Not much more you can say imo

Whittaker is the only misstep in this flick imo, otherwise the best nu-SW by a considerable distance

It feels more like Star Wars in its own funky way than any of the others. There’s also some awesome shots!

I guess it’s all been covered itt

doesn't matter it's great and worth talking about again! I was kind of amazed at what a sausage factory the production was. Considering the mess behind the scenes they really pulled it together. The last 30 min are just killer.

Totally agree with you. It's the only one that, for the most part, captured the classic SW feel. "Solo" feels like a big budget TV movie by comparison.

(from when such things as TV movies existed)