No word, usage, or phrase will ever annoy me: linguistic waffle, rabbit, and prate

"you already know" is a black thing and it's kind of like saying "i got you" but the way I've heard it used, it implies that the favor was something pretty important and in this instance I can't help but think it involved a girl or drugs

or maybe money? there an implied wink ime

this is an instructive video about the phrase, and where I first encountered it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0rrNcZp0CQ

Does "happy" for anyone still evoke a sense of good fortune and not just a good mood?

By a happy circumstance, some well-worn phrases still carry faint echoes of this early meaning. Mayhaps it shall rise again to eclipse the newcomer 'serendipitous' in our hearts and on our tongues.

good thread

waffle is imo fundamentally generous in origin, the other thread often comes from the opposite place (as does most ilx analysis of anything ordinary people do) so this is welcome

A while ago I noticed that the US bit of my family (roughly, upper Midwesterners) would often respond to a “thank you” with something that seemed to be an agreement (“sure” / “of course” / “uh huh”) where as a UK speaker I’m more used to the response being something that minimizes the effort or inconvenience (“pleasure” / “no problem” / “don’t mention it” etc)

I suppose “you already know” is an example of the former but seems to have elements of the latter.

(AFAICT all the above were comprehensible by all concerned. In context all just function as acknowledgements of the “thanks”, right? The literal meanings of the words don’t matter much if at all.)

we're working our way back toward just grunting as the primary form of communication. everyone made fun of the Yo app, but in the year 2520 Yo will be Cervantes and Tim Allen's grunting on Home Improvement will be Macbeth

thinking about the way the term "gatekeep" has evolved from describing something structural to something attitudinal. these days it's not even always about access per se (although it does get used in the sense of "withholding information"); it can also just refer to staking a claim of true fandom against casual fans or poseurs. if everyone theoretically has access to a cultural object, gatekeeping is merely a posture intended to maintain a special or exclusive relationship toward it.

this is probably due to the popular "gatekeeping" subreddit

this kind of behavior has always existed, obv., it's just kind of interesting it's now referred to as "gatekeeping," which used to have a narrower definition relating to the structural mechanisms by which culture was disseminated to the public. individual gatekeepers were people in positions of power (publishers, critics, etc.) rather than fans.

good thread

waffle is imo fundamentally generous in origin, the other thread often comes from the opposite place (as does most ilx analysis of anything ordinary people do) so this is welcome

― deems of internment (darraghmac), Thursday, 31 October 2019 03:42 (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

good post but a _great_ display name tbf

i always thought gatekeeping extended far beyond cultural hogging -- to me it's about access/cutting off access to people who are unwanted in the in-group. it's a feature of the insider/outsider dynamic that can be applied in a variety of contexts. in some ways it's similar to cronyism or even nepotism in its selective extension of whatever we define as goodies and opportunities to a chosen few.

La Lechera otm… it’s gotten used more recently in a political/social justice sense and less about who has a right to proclaim what is the best album by a band

Hmm, I don't know that I've come across those usages -- can you give an example?