Ne'er get thee stitched til Booris be ditched: UK General Election 2019

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I'd vote UKIP to get a Tory out.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

These are the only seats I'd say it's worth voting Lib Dem in.

Cheadle
Cheltenham
Cornwall North
Devon North
Lewes
Richmond Park
St. Ives
Winchester

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

Never lived in a place with a Tory MP though.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:03 (four years ago) link

Very good of you to caveat that vote for UKIP post there

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link

That list is current Tory/independent seats only I'll stress.

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link

So the Lib Dem candidate's voting record is quite slim as she wasn't around before 2017 but she claims to be anti-austerity and consistently voted for higher taxes on banks. Could be far worse, really.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link

jo swinson: “I’m going to be PM”

mate, you’re not even going to be an MP

another lib dem anagram

conrad, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

I read that the Tories fell from 58 London MPs to *11* in the space of 10 years ('87-'97). They're only back up to 21 now. (There are fewer constituencies in the capital than there were, mind).

Be nice to think we could pick off the likes of IDS this time round but I'm not sure there's going to be even that sort from swing from '17.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link

xps the lib dems normally just edge tories in bath

nxd, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link

kinky

imago, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:23 (four years ago) link

in london justine greening isn't standing again and there's some hope for iain duncan smith, theresa villiers, boris johnson

conrad, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link

I'd argue that the LibDems are just as awful as the tories and tactical voting for them is just effectively stats/polls driven fatalism that will never have any good outcome. But fucking ignore me Pom. I'm not being judgemental or dishing out advice - just my personal opinion on the matter - which ain't worth shit tbf!


Sure but it’s that or some no-deal think tank headbanger that wants to privatise air. You don’t have to like the choice but that’s what it is.

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link

Never lived in a place with a Tory MP though.


I’m in a safe Tory seat but I’d argue it’s always worth voting just because there’s always a few shocks like Canterbury

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

I'm told Boris Johnson raised fact his own seat of Uxbridge is on internal CCHQ list of seats potentially at risk at Political Cabinet

.@oliver_wright spotted Tories spent £1,178 on Facebook this week targeting 200,000 Uxbridge voters with call to keep police station open

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) October 30, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

yikes

Tory MPs laughing at Jeremy Corbyn’s bright green tie. “I know you’re all jealous,” he says.

Theresa May absolutely fuming on Tory backbenches. “It’s for Grenfell,” she hisses at colleagues.

You think they would know that. #GrenfellNeverAgain

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) October 30, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

Wear a Fireman hat Jezza. Hose the cnuts down McD.

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

quite an achievement to make theresa fucking may look like the sensitive one on grenfell, good job you braying ghouls

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

I thought sociopaths were apt at feigning human emotions such as compassion and empathy when it suits their needs?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

Theresa Villiers is my MP: 350 majority down from 12,000 five years ago. Come on!

fetter, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:42 (four years ago) link

If I never hear the word DITHER ever again...

coup de twat (suzy), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/VBQ5GKDbSdk be prepared for more nonsense like this

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link

David Lindon Lammy PC MP FRSA, 81.6% of the vote - happy days!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link

are pom and I neighbours? I didn't think so but the position is much the same here in Oxford West & Abingdon. Hi!

I'm torn here: I guess I will vote LD v grudgingly because I felt bad last time the Tories got in and this is a bad time to allow even one more Tory MP. At least my LD MP seems a bit more of the admittedly schoolma'amy and NIMBYish Ashdown/Kennedy-era style than the current spivvy fracking enthusiasts, though she first stood in 2015 so maybe I'm deluded; but I liked that she campaigned to repeal the Vagrancy Act and has tweeted in support of Labour motions & MPs, which I imagine (without looking) would be beyond Swinson.

But Swinson has been really pissing me off and I am scared they'll prop up Boris in a hung parlt and wave through his crap ERG-renege-able deal in return for something meaningless. And if everyone who felt like me voted Labour here, could we nudge the stats so that it won't seem so pointless next time? Except post-coalition the LD vote collapsed and went a bit to Labour, a bit to the Greens, and a thumping majority to the Tories on not that many more votes than before, and that didn't feel like progress at all.

(I had reckoned it was a bit safer for the LDs now anyway, as it seems quite a Remainy seat, but there's a Green candidate this year and they stood down last time, to which the LDs may well have owed their victory, and we do have our share of golfy gammonists, so... I'm scared, basically, but GL UK)

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link

Hi, neighbour! :)

Thanks for the rundown – quite helpful for a passing spacecadet such as myself.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

lol dickbrane

@ElectionMapsUK
· 3m
UKIP Leader Richard Braine has resigned.

nashwan, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link

The Lib Dem bar chart is evolving...... it is becoming stronger..... more opaque...... more powerful....... [h/t @iammightor] pic.twitter.com/zV9NGytKAV

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) October 30, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIxUKbV0UEM

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

my constituency has a good chance of going Labour this time

I've probably lived in Tory constituencies for more of my life than Labour ones (just about). the town I grew up in was Tory until 1997 (and is now again). then I went to university in a Tory/Lab marginal. then London for 15 years so mostly Labour apart from a couple of years in a Lib Dem seat although that was mostly an Iraq war thing I think (I even voted Lib Dem in 2005 for my sins)

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

Lol Jesus that tool

Speaking of tools, see Emma Kennedy is saying Labour should stand aside for the Lib Dems ofc

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

it's Emma O'Kennedy now iirc

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

Re: Lafargue, this is as appropriate a moment as any to recommend that everyone read The Right to Be Lazy:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/

pomenitul, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

what is this rogue tactical voting website? i've only seen screenshots of the results, but no idea what the URL is.

I found one, https://getvoting.org/ but that just says "dunno yet", it doesn't tell me to vote Lib Dem

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

Lafargue is one of my key texts already :D

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

I am there for anything called "The Right to Be Lazy"

Lafargue's Twitter namesake and Flying_Rodent have been v otm lately, though I realise praise from someone of my meltishness might pain them

as this election feels a bit up in the air after all the various factional schisms, it might be nice to have some kind of "who might actually beat the Tories in my area" tool aggregating data from polls and Euro & local elections (NB all 3 are only vague indications and not particularly to be trusted wrt trends in a general election) - but tbh all the attempts I've seen so far seem at worst scammy and at best maybe no better than just looking at the 2017 results

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

btw I will also concede that although I said up there my MP might - might! - be a "less bad" LD, there seems to be a bit of a gang-like mentality forming, so best not to dare hope any of them will exercise their conscience more than average when it comes to voting, eh

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

Re: Lafargue, this is as appropriate a moment as any to recommend that everyone read The Right to Be Lazy:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lafargue/1883/lazy/

― pomenitul, Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:28 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes! :)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link

Rushnara Ali asking Boris about cutting fire services while he was mayor, gwaaaaan

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link

even lib dems hate this tactical voting website, well done there

Checked this for my home constituency. Sadly Jon Crudass is our MP and he was one of the 19 who voted for the withdrawal agreement. Stop pretending Labour is a party of remain pic.twitter.com/KeQKkrls2C

— George 🔶🇪🇺🇮🇱🇭🇰 (@TricksGeorge) October 30, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

This app says you should vote for me

Cross-party pro-EU @BestForBritain have released their Remain tactical vote guide and recommend voting for me + the @LibDems in Cities of London & Westminster. Together we can ensure the constituency of Parliament and Downing Street returns a Remain MP. ⬇️ https://t.co/QeiAyg5Bx5 pic.twitter.com/DbVPyZEvAw

— Chuka Umunna (@ChukaUmunna) October 30, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

https://i.postimg.cc/rmmbngh1/1-F031-EF8-5-D58-42-D3-B0-C7-146-E202611-DD.jpg

Staaaaaaaate

pic.twitter.com/IhhPqENixU

— Tom Meadowcroft 🍉🌍 (@TomMSGGP) October 30, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

I’d vote for comrade alphabet if he ran on a pro-tank, pro-“all your books” manifesto

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

Don't believe in elections *lights up a big fat cigar*

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link

“Grenfell tower would not have happened to wealthy Londoners.”

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

In 2017, the Tories held Calder Valley with a majority of 609 votes. The Green party finished on 631.

Today, the Greens stepped aside in the constituency and officially backed Labour’s @JoshFG to bridge that tiny gap.

Solidarity, Calder Valley Greens! https://t.co/MgWfcjeqYU

— Red Robbo (@Orwell_Fan_Fan) October 30, 2019

this Green candidate didn't need some bullshit app to do the right thing in Calder Valley, credit where it is due.

calzino, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

"Will Ye No' Come Back Again?" ;_;

Previously deputy Scottish leader, Carlaw replaced Ruth Davidson after she resigned unexpected in August, partly in protest at Boris Johnson’s premiership, pending a leadership contest next year, but the party’s campaign literature still promotes Davidson prominently.

It sent out election letters to Tory voters signed by Davidson, a keen remain campaigner during the referendum, saying the threat of a second independence vote was a very real one. The A3 election leaflets Tory activists handed out in Perth on Wednesday did not name Carlaw once. Perth and North Perthshire is a key Tory target seat: the SNP’s Pete Wishart retained it with a wafer-thin majority of 21 votes, or 0.04%, over the Tories.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

my constituency was somewhat close last time - only 2,267 votes in it. nats v slab so i'll have to decide. yellow shite and tories nowhere near thankfully

ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

got my confirmation of my postal vote emailed to me just now.

ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

glasgow central represent

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

Was going to say. Quite a choice of candidates in previous years!

gyac, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

I've voted both snp and labour in the constituency (with the person i vote for never winning, i missed the 2015 election out of negligence - didn't register to vote in time)

ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link


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