"Baby It's Cold Outside" -- Holiday Song? Rapey?

Hey, Crystals, be afraid.

Also, I enjoy calling it "La Quoi" to fellow Minnesotans.

once worked with a dude that actually pronounced it with a hard "ex" on the end.

didn't make sense at all, as he was actually fairly well adjusted and an otherwise reasonable person.

TBH Van Go is equally close to the 'correct' Dutch pronunciation than the standard British Van Goff.

Uhm, no... Take it from this Dutch person: it's not. Van Goff - however wrong - is way closer than "Van Go".

Apparently the BBC actually recommends Van Gokh which I think is even closer to the Dutch pronunciation, at least based on dodgy online pronunciation resources I found.

"rhymes with Loch Lomond" is how Scottish writer Grant Morrison taught me to pronounce it in a Doctor Who comic in 1987

The BBC can't even pronounce the Dutch word 'van' right (which should be easy, but they didn't get it right w/ their most famous 'Van' person, Ruud *van* Nistelrooij (and the got the surname pretty ok! Which is so vexing), let alone Gogh. Make of that what you will.

xp That's not bad at all. Van Gogh rhymes w/ Loch.

Like a Arab etc

Anyway, I might take issue with the pronunciation of "La Croix" but I have been exposed to francophone pronunciations of "Pachelbel" and "Pinetrail" (by someone from France) over the past week and I'm not sure whether Americans have anything to worry about.

There’s nothing “wrong” with regional pronunciation changes, btw

OTM, which I think means that I'd be within my rights to pronounce "La Croix" like "la croix" if I ever have a reason to talk about it.

It’s within your rights to use the source-language pronunciation of a loanword, but you may get funny looks in the borrowing-language community.

'O Canada' every morning in school = years of conditioning in how to say 'la croix'.

i've never heard this song once in my entire life

Anyway, I might take issue with the pronunciation of "La Croix" but I have been exposed to francophone pronunciations of "Pachelbel" and "Pinetrail" (by someone from France) over the past week and I'm not sure whether Americans have anything to worry about.

'Tupperware' is my personal favourite:

https://forvo.com/search/Tupperware/fr/

Incidentally (re: 'Pinetrail'), a 'pine' is a dick.

people who ask for a 'Bom-BAR-dee-ey' beer in the pub

This conversation is not a holiday conversation.

if I could snap my fingers and have everything associated with this song erased from the planet I would

sorry John Legend

Sorry straight America, it's not a very charming song.

from here on out, everytime somebody says they've never heard the song I am posting the Ray Charles/Betty Carter YouTube. Their version is a good song! It is absolutely problematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Rbkcxiibw

The Times recommends this version with Ms Piggy ad Nureyev which the description calls "Miss Piggy Geting(sic) Lucky in the Steam Room"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EJ1SBAO1HU

also via the NYT story, here's a crazy detail about the song's role in the "inspiration of Al Qaeda":
https://qz.com/1491525/baby-its-cold-outside-and-the-rise-of-islamic-fundamentalism

“The dance hall convulsed to the tunes on the gramophone and was full of bounding feet and seductive legs,” Qutb wrote later. “Arms circled waists, lips met lips, chests met chests, and the atmosphere was full of passion.”

Wow @ "Tupperware"

That Ray Charles/Betty Carter version is actually a good example of the song being performed as a "playful" exchange between two equals, and not at all like she is being coerced or otherwise stuck on the weaker side of a power dynamic.

Love the German: Too-pah-Vaw-ray

that Ray Charles/Betty Carter rendition is wonderful, its a shame to discover that this song did 9/11

https://i.imgur.com/pi8ssLF.jpg

Holiday Song? Killy?

there should be more psychotic Christmas songs

city sidewalks, bloody sidewalks

this is Satan's big day

xxxp That meme would also work well with an iconic Duvall/Nicholson still from The Shining.

there should be more psychotic Christmas songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5kHC0g9HQ

Simply... having... a murderous Christmastime

Last Christmas
I cut out your heart

Jingle Hell

All I want for Christmas is your two front teeth

I fell for you last Christmas
When I saw you from afar
I'd like to cut your boobs off
And keep them in a jar.

https://images.genius.com/3b3335e86b69365e407ffae2370c161d.600x600x1.jpg

silent night, deadly night has nothing on that album cover

I saw Mommy disemboweling Santa Claus...

she didn't hear me creep down the stairs to take a peek
and now I'm really fucked up and I can't get back to sleep

I fixed #BabyItsColdOutside.
In this version she ignores his entreaties to stay and heads on out. Turns out there WERE no cabs to be had out there, it WAS up to her knees out there, and her frozen body is found the next day.

Everybody happy now?

— Just Bill (@WilliamAder) November 4, 2019

Ted Bundy possibly

xp No offense, I'm happy now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVz6TCT5Bjs

It's back, sped up and inverted. Feliz Navidad!

^That's from 2012... but I bet we will get a "clever" COVID-themed rewrite from someone this year.

I really can't stay
Please stay six feet away