or this remarkable sequence
Richard Gottheil 4 years agofrom Richard gottheil I still love youRichard Gottheil 3 years agofrom Richard gottheil I still love youRichard Gottheil 4 years agofrom Richard gottheil i still love youRichard Gottheil 4 years agoRichard gottheil still love you
Richard Gottheil 3 years agofrom Richard gottheil I still love you
Richard Gottheil 4 years agofrom Richard gottheil i still love you
Richard Gottheil 4 years agoRichard gottheil still love you
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link
their European appeal is definitely... something
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link
Track No. 176: Wildflower ("Living Eyes", 1981)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxVxDWZAYmY
Is it possible that Maurice delivers the best track on this album? Maybe! Lyrically it has a few less clunkers than the other tracks, and the relatively uncluttered arrangement is refreshing, the various elements are all given space to dip in and out. Anchored by the layered 12-string acoustic guitars and a restrained rhythm section, the overall effect isn't too far from other country-pop of the era, just with maybe a few more Beatle-isms inevitably thrown in (primarily thinking of that chiming lead electric guitar sound). Vocally the boys are in fine form, and the coda in particular with the overlapping melody lines is pretty sweet. Still, it feels a little sleight - the hook is not particularly memorable and it feels like the band was throwing more Maurice a bone, but at least his craftsmanship still shines through.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
Yes, this album is not exactly great - so far anyway, though I'm not holding my breath in anticipation of any massive improvement in quality in the tracks still to come. In a way it's a bit like some of the lost 70s years album in that it seems entirely rudderless. It's slightly weird hearing Robin lead vocals after all this time, I think his 80s solo albums, which are really Robin + Maurice albums, are better than this though - certainly the first one is. Is the Maurice track the first time the Bee Gees have ever shown any Beach Boys influences?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 October 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link
funny you should mention the Beach Boys, it hadn't occurred to me but the aimless, vaseline-on-the-lens, proto-yacht vibe they seem inclined to is def reminiscent of the late 70s BB albums in various ways.
But I think you have to go all the way back to the 60s stuff ("Please Read Me" in particular) for other signs of detectable BBs influence.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
shit, just realized we skipped the "Too Much Heaven" b-side (the country ballad "Rest Your Love on Me") many posts back. oh well. It's good.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
Or Track No. 164-B, as it’s known for administrative purposes :-)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 1 November 2019 07:06 (four years ago) link
Yeah the vocal melody at 2:58 in Wildflower has pretty strong Brian Wilson vibes.
― enochroot, Friday, 1 November 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
Track No. 177: Nothing Could Be Good ("Living Eyes", 1981)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAQf0qEzSms
The grammatical error in the title really bothers me (it should be "nothing could be AS good"), but that's a minor quibble compared to the song's overall garden variety easy listening schmaltz. It's very much in step with the times - there was a *lot* of this kind of shit on the radio in the late 70s/early 80s as boomers retreated into middle aged suburban stupor - it's just disappointing in its utter anonymity and formlessness. Nothing unusual or interesting happens, nothing unique to the Gibb brothers is on display, it's just this fluffy, bland, airbrushed "elevator music". You can't hum the melody, you can't recall the words, you can't dance to it, your eyes just glaze over.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 November 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
Track No. 178: ("Living Eyes", 1981)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S4_bJlamT0
Synth shuffle! We're definitely in 80s territory now, Robin transposing his standard approaches onto a different sonic template, which he would further explore on his solo albums with Maurice. The juxtaposition of Robin's theatrical vibrato against New Wave is.... interesting. Things are kinda working until Barry crashes into the song with his bridge melody and rhythmic switchups, and then it feels like the song is rolling downhill and off a cliff. It feels like the song gets crushed under the weight of too many awkward key changes. Some cool backing vocals buried in the mix under the arpeggiated synthesizers.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link
Yes, this album is a bit of dog.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
lol I see I didn't even bother to include the title of the song in my last post
That was "Cryin' Every Day" at no. 178.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
We're so close to the end. Tomorrow is the final track in our survey :(
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
I hope we've all learned some important lessons.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 22:39 (four years ago) link
Eh? You've got six more albums to get through!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
The Official ILM Track-By-Track BEE GEES 1968-1981 Listening Thread
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
there's a 6-year gap between Living Eyes and their next "reunion" record, it's a natural cut off point
LOL shows how much attention I've paid to the title of the thread.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
I think this album has killed off my enthusiasm for any continuation of the project tbh.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link
I just felt like the gap was kind of difficult to ignore/navigate - go through all the solo albums/side projects/songs for others in the interim? There's interesting stuff in there but I dunno if would be worth it
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
You mean like Barry's collaboration with Sleazy of Throbbing Gristle/Coil fame, for instance?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
of course not. I was referring to thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8WSSG3UzwU
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link
I have no idea why I haven't contributed enough, but I wanna shout out my love for Spirits Having Flown's title track. I love the keyboard hook.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
I quite like the 80s Robin albums, I mean, diminishing returns by the final one, but they're still better than "Living Eyes".
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link
They've worked with some unlikely people.
https://img.discogs.com/OtIeg3bpyEfRvkuS8bReNyul450=/fit-in/378x619/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3577627-1335979217.jpeg.jpg https://img.discogs.com/O9cbz0Okr03qG-ePnnYZ8b-Auo8=/fit-in/381x612/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3577627-1335979222.jpeg.jpg
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
"Boys Fall in Love" would've been touching in 1983 as a A Flock of Seagulls or Peter Schilling knockoff: a lonely planet boy riding to earth on synths.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
Robin is the original lonely guy just thinking baout things.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 4 November 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
oh shit
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 November 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
omfg are we really up to "spirits having flown"
i have so much catching up to do
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
That was a whole album ago
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
Track No. 179: Be Who You Are ("Living Eyes", 1981)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwyEE9ExD2o
In yet another stylistic left-turn, this song opens with an extended and sumptuous orchestral introduction (over 2 minutes long!) worthy of Robin's more grandiose moments. When Barry finally enters it's just his isolated vocal and a bit of electric guitar, with strings and piano gradually creeping back in and building up through the first verse. Barry's melody is kind of all over the place; he leaps from his lower register all the way into his falsetto more than once, and by the first chorus we are solidly in 80s power ballad territory complete with melodramatic power chords and plodding drums. Wordless harmonies come in, doubling by violins, towards the end of the second verse (or is it a chorus? the structure of this one kind of eludes me with its endless crescendos and diminuendos). The 80s gloss on this type of overblown balladry feels a little off to my ears, maybe this would've worked better with a more roughly hewn early 70s-type sound, there's at least half of a good hook somewhere in Barry's lead melody but it gets lost. An album closer that reaches for epic but doesn't quite get there.
This album is a bookend for the second phase of their career. I wish I could say we were ending this survey on a high note, but let's face it this album is pretty bad. They still had quality material in them - the 80s hits they penned for others are generally very high quality ("Islands in the Stream" obviously at the top of that heap), plus weird solo experiments and a certain white-jumpsuited duet smash hit, and they would regroup and return to the charts again towards the end of the decade. But by 1981 they were exhausted, adrift, and feeling like more of a running joke than one of the most successful bands ever. By this point, thankfully, I think some measure of critical rehabilitation has set in; they've always had a massive fanbase in Europe, and the hits from their peak eras are undeniable.
RIP Robin and Maurice.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
*crickets*
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― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
Don't really know what they're trying to do with that closing track but I suppose it's different. I hope people re-visit this thread, if only to listen to some Bee Gees (how) deep (are your) cuts!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
This album feels like a compilation of random leftovers from other albums
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
That final song sounds like compilation of random leftovers from other albums.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5eLLmpulqI
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
what a strange trip it's beenThanks for your tenacity, shakey, I have heard some pretty, pretty odd music via this thread, and I wouldn't have otherwise.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 22:51 (four years ago) link
Yeah, this has been a super-fun thread. Thanks for doing it! Any other bands you'd want to do this for?
― DJI, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link
Me? lol no I’m takin a break
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 01:41 (four years ago) link
OK, having sorted through this thread here's my pick of Bee Gees' deep cuts. "Children of the World" I know was technically a hit but since I managed to go 43 years never having heard it before I'm going to classify it as a "deep cut".
How Deep Are Your Cuts? The Bee Gees 1967-1979
Record 1: The 1960s
Side 1:Cucumber CastleEvery Christian Lion-Hearted Man Will Show YouI Close My EyesSinking ShipsDown To EarthOut of Line
Side 2:Kilburn TowersIndian Gin and Whisky DrySwan SongEdisonOdessa (City on the Black Sea)
Record 2: The 1970s
Side 3:The Greatest Man in the WorldIt's Just the WayPaper Mache, Cabbages & KingsPlease Don't Turn Out the LightsDogs
Side 4:CharadeI Can't Let You GoLoversChildren of the WorldUntil
Note: I didn't listen to every single song posted to the thread...
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
Charade? For real?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link
I like clarinet solos.
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link
If this collection was ever released that would make two albums I'd have to skip "Charade" on.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link
whatever, you probably don't like benny goodman either
it did occur to me reading this thread that the osmonds literally rock harder than the bee gees. that's pretty impressive.
― tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 November 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
Thanks for this whole thing, Οὖτις! I was quietly reading and listening along to this oddness almost all the way through. (Though I think I de-lurked a bit before realising I was never really saying anything.) Cheers!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 7 November 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link
You can almost count all the instances of the Bee Gees legit "rocking" on one hand:Heavy BreathingIn My Own TimeSuch a ShameIdeaBack HomeBad Bad DreamsDown the Road
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 November 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
Even after following along with this thread, it wasn't apparent to me just how popular the Bee Gee's were prior to their falsetto reinvention, but this data visualization really drove it home:https://youtu.be/a3w8I8boc_I
They were one of the top 10 selling artists for most of the 70's (i.e. the first 2 minutes of the video)Didn't realize the Odessa/Trafalgar/Tin Can period sold so well.
― enochroot, Monday, 11 November 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
I would guess a lot of that is back catalog sales actually. None of those albums sold particularly well.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link
Although Lonely Days and How Can You Mend a Broken Heart were big hits in the US
― Οὖτις, Monday, 11 November 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link
that data visualization is fun to look at and doesn't even remotely track with reality.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 November 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link