imagine being below salmond, not only a bladdy jock nationalist, but also up in court on a litany of sex crimes charges
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
my first thought was Salmond and Adonis are too high!
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link
notice also that diane abbott is almost at salmond levels. wonder why a black woman would be almost as unpopular in the uk as a separatist who might be a serial sex criminal?
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link
I'm being facetious
tbf she did cause 40 million Chinese ppl to starve to death by both playing footsie with Portillo and sending her spoilt brats to a private school:p
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
Find it pretty funny hard Brexiteer Cromblyn is more popular than remain hero Nicola Sturgeon
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
no nationalist figure is going to be popular in england.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
Nervous lol
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
Oh obv British (including Labourite Attlee nostalgia, 2012 FBPE nostalgia, love-bombing during indyref) and/or English nationalism are expected and welcomed
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link
Whats the rationale behind no election? This is looking bad surely? This mythical perfect time to have an election, it won't come. Either Labour have better policies and the public have had enough of a decade of austerity, or they haven't.
People who don't want an election now....when is the preferred time?
― anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 07:00 (four years ago) link
You seriously think the election is going to be about anything other than Brexit?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
Then I guess the answer is no, they haven't had enough - maybe we overestimated the effects of the last decade and people are generally happy enough overall.
if the election is only about Brexit, then I no longer understand what the Labour Party is actually for
― anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:01 (four years ago) link
but assuming you're right, and maybe you are....when should an election be?
― anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link
An election outside university term time is really not a good thing for Labour, several seats in university towns are knife-edge majorities as it is.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link
That I can understand! What was this December 9 idea that was floating about? I lose track!
― anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link
I no longer understand what your shtick is actually for tbh.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link
So many students aren't registered to vote at uni though, but still are at home. 2017 was virtually outside term time, unlike 2015 right in the middle of exams.
― Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:27 (four years ago) link
The point re December 9th isn’t students but ruling out three days of sitting time that could be used to force through the WAB.
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
Right, but we're not talking about a few days difference in December (or are we?), we're talking about an election is a bad idea and it would be better to have one...at an unidentified point in the future when Brexit is no longer an issue? Which is where I get lost
― anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:48 (four years ago) link
Labour doesn’t support the 9th or the 12th afaict. Because it doesn’t want an election it might lose.
― stet, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link
Which then goes to my initial question....when is this election where this is no longer a concern?
― anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 bookmarkflaglink
It definitely has to be. Brexit will play a bigger role but..
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link
would enjoy a series of labour campaign videos that are adverts for a user-paying uk health service
― imago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link
Nah, u'd end up persuading a good chunk of ppl that it's a good idea
― Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link
don't forget that every other person who gets sick apart from me is a scrounging parasite wasting NHS resources
see also: the entire welfare state
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link
when I'm going deeper into my overdraft after getting completely skull-fucked by the local "Not For Profit" veterinarian practice it really drives home how important the NHS still is to the social fabric of the UK, despite the Tories and New Labour's best attempts to PFI it beyond recognition. the fucking cunts.
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/29/margaret-hodge-reselected-by-local-labour-party
:'(
― conrad, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link
shit just got real
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link
tbh I share anvil’s confusion, there’s no way this doesn’t come across as a ridiculous u-turn? No deal has not been taken off the table but labour have reversed their position anyway as they were always going to
― YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link
Labour are, they would like you to know, ready.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link
man with the white beard bearing gifts...
― calzino, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/29/downing-street-signals-compromise-on-potential-general-election-date
here we here we here we fuckin go
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/DI7e2Jau7wdcQ/giphy.gif
― mark s, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link
Would 11th Dec stop the WAB from going through?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link
not on my birthday ffs
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link
The new wheeze it seems is to back the election, but with an amemdment enfranchising EU settled citizens. This seems likely to make govt pull the bill.
― stet, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link
enfranchise everyxunt imo
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
is boris officially PM after he calls an election? or does he only stop being PM when he loses?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_length_of_tenure
― koogs, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link
Yeah he’s PM until he loses.
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
SNP and Lib Dem MPs are apparently lobbying the Speaker John Bercow not to select an amendment expected from Labour to demand votes for 16 and EU citizens. They don't want to look bad by voting against 16 year-olds and EU nationals getting the vote.— Matt Dathan (@matt_dathan) October 29, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link
don’t vote against it then you fannies
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link
What a bunch of cunts
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link
16 and 17 year olds can vote for Holyrood elections though, no?
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link
Lib Dem Brexit spokesperson Tom Brake MP says if Labour push for an amendment to give the vote to 16 and 17-year-olds it could make a pre-Christmas election “unachievable”https://t.co/Suxj6kflbt pic.twitter.com/z4HTkPxrlL— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) October 29, 2019
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
Yes, and in IndyRef. But the claim is that it'd take too long to register everyone in time for a December election, so we'd be looking at election next year if this passes. Over to Bercow for bantz. xp
― stet, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link
16 year olds can already register to vote - just can’t vote until 18+
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link
Make it a public holiday while we're at it
― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link
Love the optics of the Lib Dems handwringing over votes for EU citizens.
― gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link