PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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imagine being below salmond, not only a bladdy jock nationalist, but also up in court on a litany of sex crimes charges

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

my first thought was Salmond and Adonis are too high!

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:09 (four years ago) link

notice also that diane abbott is almost at salmond levels. wonder why a black woman would be almost as unpopular in the uk as a separatist who might be a serial sex criminal?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

I'm being facetious

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:13 (four years ago) link

tbf she did cause 40 million Chinese ppl to starve to death by both playing footsie with Portillo and sending her spoilt brats to a private school:p

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

Find it pretty funny hard Brexiteer Cromblyn is more popular than remain hero Nicola Sturgeon

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

no nationalist figure is going to be popular in england.

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

Nervous lol

calzino, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

Oh obv British (including Labourite Attlee nostalgia, 2012 FBPE nostalgia, love-bombing during indyref) and/or English nationalism are expected and welcomed

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 04:28 (four years ago) link

Whats the rationale behind no election? This is looking bad surely? This mythical perfect time to have an election, it won't come. Either Labour have better policies and the public have had enough of a decade of austerity, or they haven't.

People who don't want an election now....when is the preferred time?

anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 07:00 (four years ago) link

You seriously think the election is going to be about anything other than Brexit?

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link

Then I guess the answer is no, they haven't had enough - maybe we overestimated the effects of the last decade and people are generally happy enough overall.

if the election is only about Brexit, then I no longer understand what the Labour Party is actually for

anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:01 (four years ago) link

but assuming you're right, and maybe you are....when should an election be?

anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link

An election outside university term time is really not a good thing for Labour, several seats in university towns are knife-edge majorities as it is.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:22 (four years ago) link

That I can understand! What was this December 9 idea that was floating about? I lose track!

anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link

I no longer understand what your shtick is actually for tbh.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link

So many students aren't registered to vote at uni though, but still are at home. 2017 was virtually outside term time, unlike 2015 right in the middle of exams.

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:27 (four years ago) link

The point re December 9th isn’t students but ruling out three days of sitting time that could be used to force through the WAB.

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link

Right, but we're not talking about a few days difference in December (or are we?), we're talking about an election is a bad idea and it would be better to have one...at an unidentified point in the future when Brexit is no longer an issue? Which is where I get lost

anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:48 (four years ago) link

Labour doesn’t support the 9th or the 12th afaict. Because it doesn’t want an election it might lose.

stet, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:55 (four years ago) link

Which then goes to my initial question....when is this election where this is no longer a concern?

anvil, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link

Labour doesn’t support the 9th or the 12th afaict. Because it doesn’t want an election it might lose.


I think this is debatable, certainly the leadership wants one. But then a lot of the cabinet doesn’t want one as well. If they don’t have a December election - and those two dates are probably the only feasible ones - it’s difficult to see when they’d do one without another extension. Country definitely needs one, to replace the independent MPs if nothing else.

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link

You seriously think the election is going to be about anything other than Brexit?

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 bookmarkflaglink

It definitely has to be. Brexit will play a bigger role but..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

would enjoy a series of labour campaign videos that are adverts for a user-paying uk health service

imago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

Nah, u'd end up persuading a good chunk of ppl that it's a good idea

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link

don't forget that every other person who gets sick apart from me is a scrounging parasite wasting NHS resources

see also: the entire welfare state

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:30 (four years ago) link

when I'm going deeper into my overdraft after getting completely skull-fucked by the local "Not For Profit" veterinarian practice it really drives home how important the NHS still is to the social fabric of the UK, despite the Tories and New Labour's best attempts to PFI it beyond recognition. the fucking cunts.

calzino, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

shit just got real

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link

tbh I share anvil’s confusion, there’s no way this doesn’t come across as a ridiculous u-turn? No deal has not been taken off the table but labour have reversed their position anyway as they were always going to

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 10:59 (four years ago) link

Labour are, they would like you to know, ready.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

man with the white beard bearing gifts...

calzino, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

here we here we here we fuckin go

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/DI7e2Jau7wdcQ/giphy.gif

mark s, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

Would 11th Dec stop the WAB from going through?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

not on my birthday ffs

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

The new wheeze it seems is to back the election, but with an amemdment enfranchising EU settled citizens. This seems likely to make govt pull the bill.

stet, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

enfranchise everyxunt imo

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

is boris officially PM after he calls an election? or does he only stop being PM when he loses?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_length_of_tenure

koogs, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link

Yeah he’s PM until he loses.

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link

SNP and Lib Dem MPs are apparently lobbying the Speaker John Bercow not to select an amendment expected from Labour to demand votes for 16 and EU citizens.

They don't want to look bad by voting against 16 year-olds and EU nationals getting the vote.

— Matt Dathan (@matt_dathan) October 29, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link

don’t vote against it then you fannies

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

What a bunch of cunts

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

16 and 17 year olds can vote for Holyrood elections though, no?

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link

Lib Dem Brexit spokesperson Tom Brake MP says if Labour push for an amendment to give the vote to 16 and 17-year-olds it could make a pre-Christmas election “unachievable”https://t.co/Suxj6kflbt pic.twitter.com/z4HTkPxrlL

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) October 29, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

Yes, and in IndyRef. But the claim is that it'd take too long to register everyone in time for a December election, so we'd be looking at election next year if this passes. Over to Bercow for bantz. xp

stet, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

16 year olds can already register to vote - just can’t vote until 18+

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:44 (four years ago) link

Make it a public holiday while we're at it

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

Love the optics of the Lib Dems handwringing over votes for EU citizens.

gyac, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link


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