Is it lack of December election readiness or does he want Johnson to keep stewing in his own juices?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link
Question as to why Corbyn won't make the call.
No election because there’s still ample possibility of Tories doing a no deal crash-out this time next year after the WA goes through.
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link
Shit scared of losing badly, I would have thought. Not Corbyn, that is, but 'his' MPs
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link
i think at the moment there's a perception that it's good to let Johnson take ownership of this WA and his failure to get it through. it also seems as if Corbyn is now pushing for the possible no deal scenario within the WA to be written out before he'll accept an election, but whether that's a pretext or a legitimate goal, god knows. i think there's probably just a general instinct to avoid as far as possible giving Johnson an election on terms of his own choosing.
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link
if the Corbyn-sympathetic MPs in the PLP really want an election now then i suspect there would be the numbers in Parliament to get it through
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link
Yeah but if the whips know most of the PLP won’t vote for it, Corbyn can’t vote for it. It’d be an easy attack line - “his MPs don’t respect him, why should you?”
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link
"Awful rabble". "Hostile crowd". I have to say, the sense of entitlement and barely veiled racism from some middle class white Labour members isn't exactly shocking, but it always manages to be thoroughly sickening. pic.twitter.com/DWM4KKRlF9— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) October 28, 2019
some quite sour melts not loving the Momentum-backed Apsana Begum win in Poplar and Limehouse, apparently the venue was too small and there was a crowd of terrifying savages or something.
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
Appreciate answers all, thanks
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link
Definite upgrade for Nottingham East here
I'm told Nadia Whittome - local anti-Brexit, pro-free movement activist - has won Labour's selection in Nottingham East.— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) October 27, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link
The guy replacing Gapes also seems to be good (wouldn't take a lot, but genuinely good).
People on left twitter were less happy about Vauxhall's choice to replace Hoey. Ongoing gains and losses.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link
I'm astonished that you suggest Gapes can be ..replaced!
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link
Yeah idk much about Florence Eshalomi, beyond her not being the left candidate, but there’s a certain poetic justice in Hoey being replaced by a black woman.
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link
I know Calzino, not sure what the road is for Labour now. Hopefully it will survive without Mike.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link
He’ll still have a twitter account!
Putin will be delighted. https://t.co/U4Jj59TVR3— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) October 27, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link
Flo Eshalomi was a second choice for most of the lefty Vauxhall Labour people I saw commenting on socials.
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link
some quite sour melts not loving the Momentum-backed Apsana Begum win in Poplar and Limehouse
apsana's good
― conrad, Monday, 28 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
lots of people are calling her anti-Semitic. I presume this is based upon her having a Free Palestine car sticker and some dodgy likes on social media 3 years ago.
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
being Muslim is usually enough tbh
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
vote for an election ya mad shadow cab fuds
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
*assuming BJ has written to formally recognise the EU’s extension acceptance
labour abstaining. what’s the line? “what’s an election going to solve?” I can think of a few things it might solve lads
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
We might be sailing into Gordon Brown in 2007 territory where putting an election off looks worse and worse, but I'm not convinced that electorate is exactly clamouring for a Christmas campaign.
― Matt DC, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
Has anyone polled revoke? Pretty sure a majority of the electorate just wants to forget about this, forever.
― stet, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
just think the line rn is extremely simple “you can’t trust him to keep his do or die promises. let’s elect a labour gov to sort this and the country out”
not sure what line they’re going to be putting round now. SNP and LDs will be out punching the “we’re the real opposition” bruise all week long
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
lmao pls be true
At today's meeting of the Shadow Cabinet Diane Abbott tore into Labour MPs opposed to an election, saying the PLP can "go f*** themselves".— Matt Dathan (@matt_dathan) October 28, 2019
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
YES I WAS JUST COMING HERE
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
PLP really doing it's best to destroy the leadership now, I see..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
Meanwhile
THREAD: 1/10 Dispatches has found that secret meetings have taken place between senior civil servants and representatives of US pharmaceutical firms where the price the NHS pays for its drugs has been discussed.— Channel 4 Dispatches (@C4Dispatches) October 28, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link
fucking infuriating
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link
fucking scumbags
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
don't worry I've heard Liz Truss is a sharp negotiator and totally knows what she is doing
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
she’s doing the only thing tories ever do: enriching parasites
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link
What I actually said in Shadow Cabinet today, "in the run-up to 2017 election, some Labour MPs were crying in my office and in the tearoom as if it's a f***ing funeral, saying Jeremy should stand down, then they all got re-elected with increased majorities" https://t.co/dxWI05d5U4— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) October 28, 2019
― Simon H., Monday, 28 October 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link
Diane's little red book is otm
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
confused about what’s happening tbrr
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
what does the party mean here
I'm told Corbyn is going to say Labour will support an election bill tomorrow...BUT also told the party is planning a Vote of No Conf later in the week.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 28, 2019
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
Implications for the date if they can’t form a caretaker gov iirc
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
Ian Blackford just said the SNP "wants to see votes for 16-17 year olds" in December election.A) not enough time to get them on electoral registerB) if that's a red line then the bill dies.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 28, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link
Corbyn says:-when no deal off the table-when date of election can be fixed in law-when rights of students to vote can be guaranteedThen Lab will support an electionI.e. they will amend election bill tomorrow on these grounds.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 28, 2019
The Tories have launched a data mining website called https://t.co/rlvXjgLHK8. On the website you can pop in your postcode and the website will give you a handy explainer about your MPs Brexit position and why, if they’re not in favour of the Governments position, it’s wrong.— Mhairi Black MP 🏳️🌈 (@MhairiBlack) October 28, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
Lol at this though https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH-vJYOXUAAv91b?format=jpg&name=largeVoted SNP since the 80s...vote to remain in the UK...ok
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
Corbyn, at the actual despatch box: “He said he’d die in a ditch. Another broken promise.”Genuinely blaming the the prime minister for still being alive.— Tom Peck (@tompeck) October 28, 2019
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
otm, drag his still-living ass
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 October 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Tom Peck’s invisible lips disappearing even further as he vomits up some tumbleweed of a “joke” is it
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
you know when people put "Neither Left nor Right" in their online bios they're only half telling a lie
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 October 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
Not saying he’s got some concerning views buthttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_ER3DIX4AAkN-6?format=png&name=small
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
Jo Swinson, for some unfathomable reason, has decided to dedicate this speech to attacking Labour for not supporting a People's Vote, even though it does support a People's Vote. Apparently this takes priority over challenging the government.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) October 28, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
is it unfathomable, dunty?
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 28 October 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link