PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Extension to 31st January then

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50205603

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

At last check daily mail and sky news were still running brexit countdown clocks

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

Now, will Corbyn break free and vote for an election?

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:52 (four years ago) link

probably not today.

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

Don't hold your breath.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

Clocks go back an hour - Hitch has an aneurysm over phoney clocks of deception

Brexit clocks go forward 2 months - no comment yet.

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link

Is it lack of December election readiness or does he want Johnson to keep stewing in his own juices?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link

Question as to why Corbyn won't make the call.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link

No election because there’s still ample possibility of Tories doing a no deal crash-out this time next year after the WA goes through.

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

Shit scared of losing badly, I would have thought. Not Corbyn, that is, but 'his' MPs

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

Question as to why Corbyn won't make the call.


Labour right in marginals don’t want it and others in non-marginals worried they’d win it. The left wants an election, the centre and right less so.

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

i think at the moment there's a perception that it's good to let Johnson take ownership of this WA and his failure to get it through. it also seems as if Corbyn is now pushing for the possible no deal scenario within the WA to be written out before he'll accept an election, but whether that's a pretext or a legitimate goal, god knows. i think there's probably just a general instinct to avoid as far as possible giving Johnson an election on terms of his own choosing.

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link

if the Corbyn-sympathetic MPs in the PLP really want an election now then i suspect there would be the numbers in Parliament to get it through

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

Yeah but if the whips know most of the PLP won’t vote for it, Corbyn can’t vote for it. It’d be an easy attack line - “his MPs don’t respect him, why should you?”

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link

"Awful rabble". "Hostile crowd". I have to say, the sense of entitlement and barely veiled racism from some middle class white Labour members isn't exactly shocking, but it always manages to be thoroughly sickening. pic.twitter.com/DWM4KKRlF9

— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) October 28, 2019

some quite sour melts not loving the Momentum-backed Apsana Begum win in Poplar and Limehouse, apparently the venue was too small and there was a crowd of terrifying savages or something.

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

Appreciate answers all, thanks

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link

Definite upgrade for Nottingham East here

I'm told Nadia Whittome - local anti-Brexit, pro-free movement activist - has won Labour's selection in Nottingham East.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) October 27, 2019

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

The guy replacing Gapes also seems to be good (wouldn't take a lot, but genuinely good).

People on left twitter were less happy about Vauxhall's choice to replace Hoey. Ongoing gains and losses.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

I'm astonished that you suggest Gapes can be ..replaced!

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

Yeah idk much about Florence Eshalomi, beyond her not being the left candidate, but there’s a certain poetic justice in Hoey being replaced by a black woman.

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link

I know Calzino, not sure what the road is for Labour now. Hopefully it will survive without Mike.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

He’ll still have a twitter account!

Putin will be delighted. https://t.co/U4Jj59TVR3

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) October 27, 2019

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:22 (four years ago) link

Flo Eshalomi was a second choice for most of the lefty Vauxhall Labour people I saw commenting on socials.

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2019 11:41 (four years ago) link

some quite sour melts not loving the Momentum-backed Apsana Begum win in Poplar and Limehouse

apsana's good

conrad, Monday, 28 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

lots of people are calling her anti-Semitic. I presume this is based upon her having a Free Palestine car sticker and some dodgy likes on social media 3 years ago.

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

being Muslim is usually enough tbh

imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

vote for an election ya mad shadow cab fuds

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

*assuming BJ has written to formally recognise the EU’s extension acceptance

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

labour abstaining. what’s the line? “what’s an election going to solve?” I can think of a few things it might solve lads

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

We might be sailing into Gordon Brown in 2007 territory where putting an election off looks worse and worse, but I'm not convinced that electorate is exactly clamouring for a Christmas campaign.

Matt DC, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

Has anyone polled revoke? Pretty sure a majority of the electorate just wants to forget about this, forever.

stet, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

just think the line rn is extremely simple “you can’t trust him to keep his do or die promises. let’s elect a labour gov to sort this and the country out”

not sure what line they’re going to be putting round now. SNP and LDs will be out punching the “we’re the real opposition” bruise all week long

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

lmao pls be true

At today's meeting of the Shadow Cabinet Diane Abbott tore into Labour MPs opposed to an election, saying the PLP can "go f*** themselves".

— Matt Dathan (@matt_dathan) October 28, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

YES I WAS JUST COMING HERE

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

labour abstaining. what’s the line? “what’s an election going to solve?” I can think of a few things it might solve lads


All those independent MPs for one

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

PLP really doing it's best to destroy the leadership now, I see..

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

Meanwhile

THREAD: 1/10 Dispatches has found that secret meetings have taken place between senior civil servants and representatives of US pharmaceutical firms where the price the NHS pays for its drugs has been discussed.

— Channel 4 Dispatches (@C4Dispatches) October 28, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

fucking infuriating

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

fucking scumbags

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

don't worry I've heard Liz Truss is a sharp negotiator and totally knows what she is doing

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

she’s doing the only thing tories ever do: enriching parasites

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 October 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

What I actually said in Shadow Cabinet today, "in the run-up to 2017 election, some Labour MPs were crying in my office and in the tearoom as if it's a f***ing funeral, saying Jeremy should stand down, then they all got re-elected with increased majorities" https://t.co/dxWI05d5U4

— Diane Abbott (@HackneyAbbott) October 28, 2019

Simon H., Monday, 28 October 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

Diane's little red book is otm

calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

confused about what’s happening tbrr

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

what does the party mean here

I'm told Corbyn is going to say Labour will support an election bill tomorrow...BUT also told the party is planning a Vote of No Conf later in the week.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 28, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

Implications for the date if they can’t form a caretaker gov iirc

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Ian Blackford just said the SNP "wants to see votes for 16-17 year olds" in December election.

A) not enough time to get them on electoral register

B) if that's a red line then the bill dies.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 28, 2019

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

Corbyn says:

-when no deal off the table
-when date of election can be fixed in law
-when rights of students to vote can be guaranteed

Then Lab will support an election

I.e. they will amend election bill tomorrow on these grounds.

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) October 28, 2019



Also Mhairi Black reports that the Tories have launched an email sender that allows random members of the public to abuse MPs via withheld identity, nice stuff

See thread

The Tories have launched a data mining website called https://t.co/rlvXjgLHK8. On the website you can pop in your postcode and the website will give you a handy explainer about your MPs Brexit position and why, if they’re not in favour of the Governments position, it’s wrong.

— Mhairi Black MP 🏳️‍🌈 (@MhairiBlack) October 28, 2019

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

Lol at this though
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH-vJYOXUAAv91b?format=jpg&name=large

Voted SNP since the 80s...vote to remain in the UK...ok

gyac, Monday, 28 October 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

Corbyn, at the actual despatch box: “He said he’d die in a ditch. Another broken promise.”

Genuinely blaming the the prime minister for still being alive.

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) October 28, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 28 October 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link


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