I'm not gonna stop you. was cool to meet you the other night!
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
well I can't type tonight but I just checked, "This Is Andrew Sinclair"? Just checked and I've randomly got that, some beetroot based single. I got all the late period shit, I'm missing the early stuff and would welcome and potentially contribute to any blog
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
(checked twice clearly, is how drunk I am...)
― Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
I've been through my collection and am now only missing
'Questionable Book Shoot' from Shared Stereo 7" compilationThe whole 1995 John Peel session
If anyone has any ideas on where to find these I would be very grateful.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
I had that years ago but no more. Found it on Soulseek
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 2 November 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
I will have a look on there again!
Also I still have no idea what was on those first two demo tapes (The Yummy Fur - 17 Tracks, The Edith Massey Eggsplosion, 17 Tracks) but presume that's the other stuff on Kinky Cinema. Someone on bandcamp is trying to sell four (skipping) tracks from the second tape for £2, all are on kinky cinema.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
I've got Shared Stereo on mp3. Can do Dropbox or something?
Would also like to know what's on those tapes!
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 November 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
Would be brilliant - james at centuriesofsound dot com !
Didn't find either on slsk, but there is a lot more yf on there than there was when i last checked in 2018
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
> The whole 1995 John Peel session
there were two peel sessions on youtube when i looked (and one for someone else?)
― koogs, Saturday, 2 November 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
can only find a 1998 session on Slsk
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 November 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
sent you a Dropbox link - I've sent the whole thing - it's at 96 CBR but that's because it's mono, would be 192 in stereo
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 November 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link
I just put the 1995 Peel Session on Dropbox, along with scans from a contemporaneous zine interview. I sent the link to Camraderie/James, let me know if anyone else wants it.
― city worker, Sunday, 3 November 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
Wow CP and city worker, think that is everything!
After listening I'm going to sort them and find something to do with them.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 3 November 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
i've been told that Questionable Book Shoot might be the same track as Shaggy from Kinky Cinema, possibly even the same recording
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 3 November 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
I have come to the same conclusion, yup.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 3 November 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link
Alrighty then, going to do as threatened and turn this thread into a TYF listening thread. I've set up a Youtube account for the purpose, and tried & failed to get in touch with John / Jackie to get his permission to upload everything there.
If it's only me on this thread and occasional other posters then that should be ok, but should point out that most of the early tracks are less than a minute long anyway, so why not have a listen to (one of) my favourite band(s).
Let's start with some undated early demos later put on the 'Kinky Cinema' compilation, no idea when these are from, so putting them at the start as they sound raw and scratchy.
This is 'The Walt Disney Murder Club' - a good place to start as it explains what the group are about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-84mgoSjuYY
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
you might try contacting here? https://www.instagram.com/mckeowntyler/
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
Ah, there he is. Tyler now?
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 29 February 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link
Gimme Cigarettes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujFDyK5uiew
Pro-cigarette propaganda, not one of their best tbh, good melody on chorus though
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 1 March 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link
180bpm!
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 6 March 2020 00:37 (four years ago) link
Gimmick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRypC7SIrU
A kind of carnival sound, still ends with "fuck you" - also, that drumming!
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 7 March 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link
Found a Girlfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuDes12wq9k
Very low-fi early demo, clearly from a warped tape, some good playing with rhythms, sounds a bit like early The Fall.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 March 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link
Oh and thanks Tracer Hand, I have been given the ok!
Nice :)
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
The Dummy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jki2vNm5B0o
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
Prostitutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zrPBVMCMeE
I got prostitutes, prostitutes, prostitutes on my wallThat cheap Sam Fox from the telephone boxShe's not a barbie dollThese are real hard girls trying to make some cashWe are just dumb punksSteal their calling cards 'cause it makes us laughIt's very hard to grow up, yeah
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 10:02 (four years ago) link
I feel like I must have been assuming some kind of alternate persona when I made this thread. but 16+ years later and I'm still here and I still love this dumb band.
― fffv, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link
They're not a joke pop band (yes I do accept that the surface of this band is much like a cartoon)
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
by which I mean yes!
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link
Always a pleasure to listen to.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link
Yummy Fur vs The Stooges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0beBwTQoXg
Five seconds of noise, five seconds of silence, that's what yr getting.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 12 March 2020 09:11 (four years ago) link
The Monotony Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny-CICHcS0Q
An admittedly skippable one works well for a day when it's unlikely anyone wants to listen anyway.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 March 2020 15:06 (four years ago) link
Discord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UYRB7o4t24
A fast! cover version of the Peel session version of the Fire Engines original, actually great, just wish it were a bit longer.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link
(Still posting these despite everything because got to have some little spark of joy in my day)
Our Peppermint Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCfxhSXzjQ
This one, I think, is quite Cardiacs.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link
Thank you for posting these, Camaraderie. I'm following this and listening...
― city worker, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link
Cheers city worker
This is Super-8 Recording
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz47ZyaX2Ys
Sounds cheeky
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link
This is the last of the really early demos, however we are not going to move to much higher production values for quite a while.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link
On to Music By Walt Disney But Played By Yuri Gagarin Thus A Political Record - their first proper release.
This is 'Goosebump' - bit of a low-key start to the EP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkzl9tVsCx8
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 March 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link
Always thought it was funny how he nails the anxiety of the subject matter in the 7" version, but sound like he can't be bothered when it appears on Kinky Cinema
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 19 March 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link
I'm still hoping for a comprehensive list of single versions I need to track down.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 19 March 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link
The re-recordings of MBWDBPBYG tracks on Kinky Cinema are some of the weaker bits on there. I'm actually going to post the re-make of Father Ubu Says because of the way he changes the lyrics to ones about how much he hates the song.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 March 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
"I was only 23 when I wrote it..." etc.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 March 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
Shrinky-Dink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-j6e0b8Xgo
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 20 March 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link
Pink Pop Girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OYXBbsWZjQ
Stuttering rhythms give way to a bit of low-fi power pop, then synthesis
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 09:23 (four years ago) link
The re-recordings of MBWDBPBYG tracks on Kinky Cinema are some of the weaker bits on there.
Is everything on "Kinky Cinema" a re-recording?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link
No, it's a mix of early demos, mid-period demos, re-recordings and new experimental bits in roughly equal proportions.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:08 (four years ago) link
oh and the first ten tracks are the Kodak Nancy Europe ep
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:39 (four years ago) link
Kabuki Actors Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIRfG2ji8co
There! is! no! Santa! Claus!
This one is fairly new to me as I never had this EP, and there wasn't a re-record on Kinky Cinema.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 March 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link
So, I totally love this band and know these records really well but it's been hard to get into this thread. Breaking up something like Kinky Cinema (which is 60 >90 second songs) into individual tracks feels quite academic, like putting a frozen tissue sample under a microscope. Which is fine, even potentially revealing but to my ears reduces it to something like a historical artifact.
IMO, this would work better record-by-record than track-by-track.
― Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
It will make more sense when I get to more substantial releases.Will continue this tomorrow as I finished a Twitter thing which was taking up all my time.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link