oh jk i guess halsey eventually announced an album w/ "without me" on it, but way way after the fact (+ after followup singles had already bombed and been downgraded to standalone)
― dyl, Saturday, 26 October 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link
I mean it makes sense specially in pop as in electronic music to just release a song when it’s finished, if you wait too long until a whole album is finished the trends you were trying to set and/or follow might have shifted. There’s not that many people that still buy physical albums or even play an album instead of standalone songs, specially with youtube and playlist culture.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link
Selena stans are swarming Lizzo on Twitter, b/c their singles are dueling on the iTunes US chart, and Lizzo tweeted a request for more dl’s to get her track to #1.
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Sunday, 27 October 2019 06:03 (four years ago) link
Also, it's easier for pop stars to bounce back from a bad single as opposed to a bad album cycle. Katy Perry has also just shifted to dropping random singles after the disaster that was Witness.
― triggercut, Sunday, 27 October 2019 06:47 (four years ago) link
twitter standom is profoundly silly at best and toxic at worst. like really, dogpiling someone because of the itunes chart. in 2019? digital download sales volumes are way too low to mean much these days.
poor katy perry. it's like people stopped fucking with her music heavy as soon as she stopped having seemingly effortless success
― dyl, Sunday, 27 October 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
Yeah, the numbers at issue here for each track are around 1,000 sales (in 24 hrs.)
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Sunday, 27 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
Now, THIS one I like!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia1iuXbEaYQ
(The album is out today.)
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
F%^&, this is a good track
Try "Dance Again.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link
I'm not digging that one as much.....
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link
"Crowded Room" (feat. 6LACK) is nice. Her voice is so thin -- I think the more minimalist tracks suit it best, somehow.
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link
I think I'm allergic to her sonic preferences ("Bad Liar" excepted)
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link
not feeling this but it was prob the wrong move to listen to it after the poppy record
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link
like Ariana Grande, she's taken with brevity, to my relief.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link
I am pretty into this
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link
I'm taken with the way she and her producers use bass.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
omg i'm excited, i was just talking about her this AM
― surm, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
Me too
"Fun" is also a kinda cool track. I feel like she goes in a for a lot of Swift-isms...
Nothing else on here comes close to the opening track for me (sadly)!
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
That calypso-ish beat just kills me
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link
new album is really good!
― sean gramophone, Friday, 10 January 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link
really into Crowded Room
― surm, Friday, 10 January 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
bottom heavy album for sure! i'm into it!
― surm, Friday, 10 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
not enough explicit criticism of the male gaze for me tbh - while there's something despairing (and desperate) about the way she sings + the synth drone, it still seems all too besotted with phallocentricity of objectification
It's Selena Gomez ffs, not Huggy Bear.
― does it look like i'm here (jon123), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link
gimme more phallocentricity with a side of objectification
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 January 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link
The Target version of this CD tacks on “Bad Liar,” “Fetish,” “Wolves,” and a few others. It’s tempting...
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Saturday, 11 January 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link
Love this on first listen.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 11 January 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
it's really very solid, if a little quaint. still, it's her signature. it works!
― surm, Saturday, 11 January 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
Found myself in Target with some extra $$, so... I’ve been listening to the CD as I drive around today. After the fantastic opening track, it’s pretty mediocre (IMO) until around track 9 or 10 — where it hits a good, final stretch. She’s such a limited vocalist; the best tracks find a way to take advantage of what she offers (in addition to just being good songs). The Target CD is worth buying for the bonus tracks (FYI, it’s $11.99 on Target.com; they’ll price-match in store).
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Sunday, 12 January 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link
Just want to back up Johnny Fever who very early on praised “Lose You To Love Me” which sounds so incredible to me while playing through this as a whole. You were an early adopter and it is truly amazing.
― gman59, Sunday, 12 January 2020 04:52 (four years ago) link
kind of a martina topley-bird feel to this, maybe? track more than vocal
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 12 January 2020 05:28 (four years ago) link
i was just going to ask how people rate "lose you to love me" now, several months later. admittedly i never really warmed to it.
― dyl, Sunday, 12 January 2020 06:52 (four years ago) link
It does nothing for me, I’m surprised it performed so well. Clearly I don’t have my finger on the pulse, lol
― Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Sunday, 12 January 2020 07:07 (four years ago) link
― dyl, Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:52 AM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
still an extremely boring piano ballad propped up by an unconvincing fake narrative
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 12 January 2020 07:22 (four years ago) link
Im kind of a sucker for this sort of a ballad. Anyway, didn't mean to start anything but sounds beautiful to me. Loving "Rare" and "Crowded Room" too.
― gman59, Sunday, 12 January 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
Whoa - there’s a songwriter demo of “Rare” that sounds almost identical(?)
― stop creeping my instagram storiez (morrisp), Monday, 13 January 2020 03:03 (four years ago) link
there usually are, the question is whether they ever become public
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 13 January 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link
i like lose you to love me cuz i just went thru a breakup and i totally feel her sentiment
― surm, Monday, 13 January 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
xp Does that mean the credited producers on the track also probably worked on the demo (for it to be so fully produced, with all the same sonic touches etc.)?
― stop creeping my instagram storiez (morrisp), Monday, 13 January 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
Wow! Just finishing up my first listen though this. Think there may have been a couple plodding pop-by-numbers kinda tracks in the middle, but the last few tracks are strong! Good record to start off the year with.
― ☮️ (peace, man), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
the last few tracks are strong! to the point where i start thinking i'm really getting into the album and then it's over lol
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 January 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link
Yep! The singles are the weakest links imo
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
in today's country industry a large proportion of hits are written and produced entirely without the input of the artists that go on to record them... so it's quite common for demos submitted for consideration by artists/management/a&r to be essentially completed tracks w/ v high production values, all the bells 'n' whistles, etc, just w/o the artist's vocal. i remember reading an interview with a (non-artist) songwriter or producer about how that goes, and how the nearly-finished quality of such demos is almost considered necessary to stand out among all the other submissions.
i assume the situation is similar in pop as well, at least when it comes to pitching to artists who contribute little-to-nothing as songwriters (tho in some cases the recording artist will also end up getting credited as a songwriter even if the finished product doesn't differ at all from the demo besides the vocal)
xp
― dyl, Monday, 13 January 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
I love it
― winters (josh), Monday, 13 January 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link
i am also pro-"lose you to love me" so i don't completely agree with alfred
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 13 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
xxp Thanks, dyl (Gomez does indeed have a songwriting credit on the track).
The production work on "Rare" is so fantastic, I think it deserves a breakdown (probably by someone better than me, but here goes):
0:00 - a little bongo trill fades in - the first thing you hear - telegraphing rhythmic elements that will reappear later0:01 - that (acoustic?) bassline; that distant, muffled beat... the foundations of the track; love them both0:18 - more of the rhythm comes in (bongos), but it's still not fully fleshed out0:34 - the chorus hits, along with some additional background tones, and a more booming (but still subtle) bassline. And yet, the track's STILL not yet in full bloom, until...0:51 - boom! the tinny trap-lite / calypso beat is in full effect - it's so lovely1:08 - after the chorus, everything drops out, leaving just the acoustic bassline again1:21 - echoing "ah-ahhs" and other backing vocal embellishments add to the mood2:15 - great bridge... the song feels organic, each section flowing naturally from the previous one2:42 - these ominous little background drones sound like they may have been inspired by Taylor Swife"Call It What You Want"(?)3:38 - final bongo trill. fin.
― stop creeping my instagram storiez (morrisp), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:30 (four years ago) link
The (excellent) guitar solo in 'Cut You Off,' I realized, reminds me of something from Haim's first album.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link
Is it just me or does anyone else think "Crowded Room" owes more than a bit to Cassie's "Me & U". Not a criticism.
― daavid, Friday, 17 January 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
lately i've taken to listening to "lose you to love me" on repeat and crying
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link
― daavid, Friday, January 17, 2020 9:28 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes i realized this on second listen of crowded room for sure
― surm, Friday, 24 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
no thread for Rare on its own? Late pass but the deluxe version is gonna be top ten for sure for me.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 12 April 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link