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all fair, i'm pretty socially inapt + don't like a lot of things + i know my opinions don't really jive with most ppl on this board. yet something, if only force of habit, has kept me here for over a dozen years and i still get turned on to a couple things per year from this board that i likely wouldn't have found elsewhere. so... i'll be here till i'm not. thank you!

lumen (esby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

you're welcome

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

lol @ the notion that Aimless is some sort of firebrand troll

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

ha yes

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

wait, who were you before esby? what's your old display name?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

sleepingbag

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

^^

lumen (esby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Yet to really see the point in them tbh, feels pretty useless as a troll. Seems to think the solution to a proliferation of bad trump threads is more, worse trump threads

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

there is no solution, only trump

lumen (esby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

Being at/near the center of clusterfucks does not necessitate trolling. See also: gabbneb

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

the good faith poster has logged on:

don't worry, grampa's gonna start the revolution any day now and then it's off to the re-education camps for me

― lumen (esby), Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:30 PM (five days ago)

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link

apt

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link

Very few threads on ilx are actually useful in a utilitarian way. The quality and quantity of Trump threads is as pointless to argue about as the best 100 albums by bands that start with the letter H

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

most people on ilm think the latter is very point...ful?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

Anyway I appreciate esby and his nakhchivanian tribute act persona

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link

talk about chalkchivanian and cheesby.. bloody sacrilege :p

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

nakh was never a troll. when he was being an arsehole it was from the heart

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

Wait .... what?

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:34 (four years ago) link

yeah come on nakh was good to great and esby is faintly rotten watery garbage

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link

he's doing an incoherent whiff of joe rogan thing but the laziness is so palpable it doesn't even get a troll response other than aimless who seems to enjoy engaging disaffected young men

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link

We should compare these two posters via analogies to bands that are influenced by other bands.

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

Like the Rolling Stones ...

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

wait, you guys don't listen to joe rogan? and I'm the troll? lol, ok...

lumen (esby), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

He’s no gaz coombes. Sorry that’s just how I feel

sarahell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link

talk about chalkchivanian and cheesby.

gods work right here calz

deems of internment (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link

I miss nakh he was nice to me once

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link

Very few threads on ilx are actually useful in a utilitarian way. The quality and quantity of Trump threads is as pointless to argue about as the best 100 albums by bands that start with the letter H

― sarahell

I can only get to about 75, and some of them might not count depending on how strict your criteria are:

Hagar the Womb - Break the Silence
Hail - Hello Debris
Hail Spirit Noir - Mayhem in Blue
Half Japanese - Half Gentlemen Not Beasts
Hall & Oates - Abandoned Luncheonette
Hallelujah Chicken Run Band - Take One
Hama - Houmeissa
Hammer Screwdriver - s/t
Hampton Grease Band - Music To Eat
Hangedup - Kicker In Tow

Hank Wood & the Hammerheads - s/t
The Happy Dragon Band - s/t
Happy End - Kazemachi Roman
Happy Family - s/t
Happy the Man - Crafty Hands
Haram - When You Have Won, You Have Lost
Hardwater - s/t
Harmonia - Deluxe
Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinqueme saison
Harpers Bizarre - Feelin' Groovy

Harpy - Do Not Eat
Hatfield and the North - s/t
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
The HE 5 - Merry Christmas Psychedelic Sound
The Head Shop - s/t
Headstone Circus - s/t
The Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
Hearts & Minds - Electroradiance
Heavy Vegetable - Frisbie
Hedningarna - Hippjokk

Heimat - s/t
Helado Negro - This Is How You Smile
Heldon - Stand By
The Heliocentrics & Mulatu Astatke - Inspiration Information
Hellripper - Coagulating Darkness
Hellwitch - Szygial Miscreancy
Helmet - Meantime
Help - The Second Coming
Helvetia - The Clever North Wind
Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning

The Heptones - Party Time
Herpes - Medellin
Het Pandorra Ensemble - III
Hieroglyphic Being - The Disco's of Imhotep
High Contrast - High Society
The High Fidelity - s/t
The High Llamas - Gideon Gaye
High Rise - Live
High Tide - Sea Shanties
Him - Many In High Places Are Not Well

Hirax - Hate, Fear and Power
The Holy Modal Rounders - The Moray Eels Eat the Holy Modal Rounders
Holy Sons - Decline of the West vol. I & II
The Holydrug Couple - Hyper Super Mega
Home - Falling Into Place
Homicide - Illsurrekshun
Honeyelk - En Quete D'un Monde Meilleur
The Honeymoon Killers - Les Tueurs de la Lune de Miel
Hopeajarvi - s/t
The Horrific Child - L'etrange Monsieur Whinster

Horse - For Twisted Minds Only
Hosome - New Fascio
Hot Butter - More Hot Butter
Hotel X - Routes Music
Hotline - You Are Mine
Hotzenplotz - Songs Aus Der Show
Hound - Out of Time
Houndog - s/t
However - Sudden Dusk
HP Lovecraft - II

The Hua Family Shawm Band - Walking Shrill
Hugo Largo - Mettle
The Human League - Dare
Hunger - The Lost Album
Husker Du - New Day Rising
Hussalonia - Home Taping Is Killing Me
The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble - s/t

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:11 (four years ago) link

helium - the dirt of luck

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link

Heart and Haim were robbed

solos that go widdly widdly widdly (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:37 (four years ago) link

I’m not getting any of these jokes and I’m very annoyed

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link

Least relatable post ever.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

hmmmmm

breastcrawl, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link

If you think this place isn't poptimistic enough, we must not be living in the same universe.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:08 (four years ago) link

Haha I also felt slighted by that remark but from the other side

gyac, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:09 (four years ago) link

I think there's truth in all perspectives here

imago, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link

Don't you 'both sides' me! Entire genres are absent from these polls, fuck giving more space to the same old hegemonic shit everyone already knows about.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

There is indeed too much indie in the albums poll. But the corrective certainly isn't more chart pop.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:14 (four years ago) link

I’ll both sides you as much as like!

Matt has an excellent point but the poptimist post is more like “the wrong people are posting here”.

gyac, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

No jazz, no so-called 'world' music, no classical, no 'experimental', etc., and the real cause for dismay is the supposed lack of pop.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:16 (four years ago) link

And not just any pop. English-language pop.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

you must not know about me

breastcrawl, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

I don't, no. Which is fine – relative anonymity is the great equalizer.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

Pop made it to #47, what more do you want?

Lucky Pierre Delecto (crüt), Thursday, 24 October 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

You don't understand. Anglo pop may seem ubiquitous but it is actually oppressed by rockists and their hegemonic ideology of authenticity.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 October 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

Every time I go to the supermarket, they blast Keith Rowe and John Tilbury's Duos for Doris, please help!

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

oh i forgot this was happening

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 24 October 2019 12:24 (four years ago) link

I know entire genres are absent and it annoys me too, but this is breastcrawl's lament for a specific form of cultural positioning that certainly had (has?) its place. Although I'd say reports of its demise are exaggerated

imago, Thursday, 24 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

It would have had its place in a completely different context. As it stands, it's just the same old Anglo-American (indie) rockist vs poptimist tertium non datur turf war that knowingly ignores impossibly large swathes of music, some of which happen to be as immense as entire continents. What are the chances that, say, Toumani Diabaté's The Mandé Variations – a relatively well-known 'world' music album that I voted for – will place at this point? I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

pomenitul, Thursday, 24 October 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link

good point, well made tbh

imago, Thursday, 24 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

polling is, i would argue, fundamentally not an effective means of challenging hegemony and "consensus". if you want to poll a population of, largely, anglo-americans on "music" and somehow get results that aren't dominated by anglo-american pop-rock the only way to do that is to write the rules so as to exclude anglo-america pop-rock.

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link


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