Tusk recommending extension as requested, so looks like we are on for Jan 31
― stet, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link
It's going to be like a party till then.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
lol:
Tonight Jeremy Corbyn and Labour voted to delay Brexit again and create more uncertainty. They have humiliated the country again. pic.twitter.com/rVLSXLDCVM— Conservatives (@Conservatives) October 22, 2019
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
There’s been a lot of this sort of thing over the past two months. Dodgy stories and commentary linked to Downing Street or government sources started to appear in the press and media after Johnson installed his own media team, which was largely drawn from the Vote Leave campaign that won the 2016 Brexit referendum.With the prime minister’s evident encouragement these Downing Street or government sources have been spreading lies, misrepresentations, smears and falsehoods around Fleet Street and across the major TV channels. Political editors lap it all up.
With the prime minister’s evident encouragement these Downing Street or government sources have been spreading lies, misrepresentations, smears and falsehoods around Fleet Street and across the major TV channels. Political editors lap it all up.
I'm glad P Oborne wrote that piece linked above, but I'm not sure "BBC manipulated by Downing Street" is particularly a recent development and going back to the Cameron era it was criminally biased and bad and often either pro-austerity or austerity neutral. tbf it probably has got markedly worse since Boris was in no 10 - but the rest of right wing shit-rags have been stone crazy for years, and probably a bigger story is how the Graun have kowtowed to GCHQ and are publishing fiction straight from their office as news.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
It was fucking weak back in the coalition years, they barely covered the health and social care act and ignored the protests against it.What’s also bad, and I’m glad he mentioned it, is the increasing influence of Guido Fawkes on the press.
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
Not sure which country yiz are in where a three month delay would involve any scrutiny of the bill at all, sounds nice.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
You’re all thinking: another extension. I am thinking: another three weeks listening to Farage pic.twitter.com/Cob2wPmghP— Guy Verhofstadt (@guyverhofstadt) October 22, 2019
― stet, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link
labour should lambast the tories relentlessly for.... not getting brexit done
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link
Peter Oborne withering on the way the BBC allow anonymous govt spokesppl to play them and thus to mislead the public
― mark s, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:41 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I missed this in the hurlyburly but it's really good - a friend reposted it and pointed out the breathless reporting yesterday that if the programme motion were to fail then Boris would assuredly pull the bill - it did, he didn't.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
Oh yeah the link: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/british-journalists-have-become-part-of-johnsons-fake-news-machine/
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link
I don't know if this is as much of an issue as it might have been 10 years ago. Public trust in the media (and all institutions) is continuously declining, but on the flipside deference to power and authority is still high. But to the owner class not the manager class, and BBC is manager class.
― anvil, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link
Yes and no, but people still trust the BBC for news and for older people it might be their main source of broadcast news.
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:27 (four years ago) link
for many years I'd used the BBC world news page as the page that loads automatically when I open a new window, but after reading this thread I've finally changed to another site. all the faults of the BBC presented here convinced me.
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:35 (four years ago) link
(I realize that may sound sarcastic but I'm not capable of that this early in the morning)
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link
The numbskull who tried his best to ruin #SkyPapers from Westminster tonight by whistling and shouting ‘losers’ and ‘Brexit now’ through out just admitted to the producer he’s paid £80 a night to do it. I wonder who by?— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) October 22, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:39 (four years ago) link
still not convinced - despite their best efforts - the tories have successfully answered - in the minds of the public - “what’s an election going to solve ?”
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:41 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:43 (four years ago) link
NEW: Ken Clarke says if the PM presents a one line bill calling for an election (remember he needs a way round that Fixed Term Parliaments Act), then MPs will amend it. For example, to reduce the age of voting to 16. Snap election might not be so easy for PM after all.— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) October 23, 2019
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:47 (four years ago) link
I don’t think the same problems exist with world service tbf?
― gyac, Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:43 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I don't think so either. But on WS you're one click away from BBCUK. Wondering what site you changed to now, Euler!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:50 (four years ago) link
xp - the pitch will be "we have the deal sorted out, we need a majority to push it through" - plus let's fund the NHS.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:50 (four years ago) link
(xp to comrade zebra)
Also Gyac, late to this but I really appreciated seeing the train tweets :) It was not in vain.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 07:51 (four years ago) link
I switched to a French site finally. But really I just want world news at a glance, not analysis but just headline-type stuff, preferably that says little about the USA (one thing that was annoying me about the BBC, too much about the current usa president who doesn't warrant my attention). if there's some other good world news site I'd be interested!
― L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:11 (four years ago) link
al-jazeera's pretty good
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link
It is. Graun's international landing page is ok too.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
Jesus... 39 bodies found in Essex lorry container
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:45 (four years ago) link
Horrible.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:53 (four years ago) link
Fucking horrendous. There was a story last week about someone dying after falling from the cargo hold of a plane during landing too.
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 08:58 (four years ago) link
RTÉ probably has the best English-language Brexit coverage (and Tony Connelly gets all the Brexit scoops first).
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link
euronews.com might suit you Euler
― nashwan, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 09:06 (four years ago) link
one thing that was annoying me about the BBC, too much about the current usa president who doesn't warrant my attention
This is a common complaint.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
BBC apologises after Andrew Marr suggested Priti Patel was 'laughing'The corporation received 222 complaints and now accepts Patel was not "smiling" but displaying her "natural expression"
The corporation received 222 complaints and now accepts Patel was not "smiling" but displaying her "natural expression"
ok
― conrad, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link
resting giggle face
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
Oh, prithee.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link
It is true that a smug smirk is her natural expression.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link
Her attempts to look serious and considered after Marr made the comment were pretty funny.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link
so i took yesterday afternoon and evening off politics and the internet? did anything happen?
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link
COME ON PROGRAMME MOTION U CUNT
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link
Corobyn and Johnson meeting to discuss new programme motion this morning
― stet, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
The FPBErs are going to love that.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:46 (four years ago) link
They are busy designing an app to show voters how not to vote Labour in their area to 'stop Brexit'.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
I'm so proud of my man Cronbyn finally getting to cause Brexit
― calzino, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
I see Boris is doing, what, his second pmqs since July?
Johnson opens with the horrible news that 39 bodies have been found in a lorry in Essex. He says it is an awful tragedy.Labour MP Rupa Huq asks him why he doesn’t get rid of Dominic Cummings. Johnson says he receives excellent advice from his advisers and he takes full responsibility for everything the government does.
― gyac, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link
BJ really does not ever answer a question, does he? All he does is say Cromryn supported the IRA all his life and that he's a threat to the union. Not a single answer.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link
he can't even acknowledge how many fucking kids he has
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link
Johnson opens with the horrible news that 39 bodies have been found in a lorry in Essex. He says it is an awful tragedy.
Presumably going to blame this on being in the EU and "uncontrolled" borders and will eventually make a joke about them like he did dead Libyans.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link
I'm not watching this, but one quite meltish commentator has remarked that Corbyn is very composed + on his game today and Boris is a mess.
― calzino, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link
A lone woman, standing up to a sea of cowardly, corrupt white men, is an entire mood. pic.twitter.com/4cVMOi3AGi— Lauren Rankin (@laurenarankin) October 16, 2019
Six white men stuck in the past, conspiring to wreck our future.#StopBrexit https://t.co/la9spWosab— Jo Swinson (@joswinson) October 23, 2019
I take my hat off to the women that have successfully transcended race when necessary
― anvil, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link
PMQs has been like that for years, it's a complete waste of everyone's time.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
You're right, but LJ hasn't started the albums roll-out yet :-/
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link