I thought you all thought Brexit was inevitable?
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
Yeah that's so fucked. It's not about the deal itself, it's about the fact that he got it. Guess what, anyone can GET a deal, but it's a TERRIBLE deal. argh.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
this will look less awful once we americans re-elect trump in 2020
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
YES
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
Ayes 308No's 322
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
Hahahahahahaha
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
Lol
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
308 yes322 no
YA DANCER
Lol.!
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
LET'S GET READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEE
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
GIRUY Boris
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
GE?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
Missing the fire in Corbyn's speech tbh, he sounds like he's reading the train schedule out loud.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
Surely Johnson can leave with a few days extension?
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
"no one thought we would re-open the WA""no one thought we would get a new deal"
fucking easy mode politics
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
He's no Nye Bevan but no-one ever pretended he was tbf
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
Bozza playing it back to EU. No mention of GE (yet).
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
lol Gyac! Didn't know that
Waffle and dither and dither and delay from Johnson oh god here's Blackfordzzzzzzzzzzz
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
so... Boris' timetable was rejected?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
Yes.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
Corbyn's yer man for timetables.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
Johnson 'pauses' Brexit legislationBoris Johnson has confirmed he will set aside the bill that would implement his deal, despite the fact the Commons has just backed it, after his proposal to fast-track it through parliament was rejected by MPs.He says he does not want a delay and will continue to discuss with EU27 leaders until they decide whether or not to grant one.
Boris Johnson has confirmed he will set aside the bill that would implement his deal, despite the fact the Commons has just backed it, after his proposal to fast-track it through parliament was rejected by MPs.
He says he does not want a delay and will continue to discuss with EU27 leaders until they decide whether or not to grant one.
xp to shakey
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
Ken Clarke wants to get Brexit done apparently
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
No election. Deal passes early November unless Lab MPs bother to read the thing
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
COME ON PROGRAMME MOTION U CUNT
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
I'm afraid that's correct, Comrade. And I'm afraid BJ will go to sleep with a smile on his face. He got a majority on his bill. May didn't achieve this. There might be another extension but he's got this under his belt now. It's fucked.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
election
Election
(louder) ELEction
stands on table ELECTION ELECTION
throws pint glass ELECTION ELECTION ELECTION
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link
I'm afraid that's correct, Comrade. And I'm afraid BJ will go to sleep with a smile on his face.
I can assure he absolutely won't.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
So is his deal a sure thing to go through now? Or are there more chances to gum up the works?
(Sorry to keep wandering in with outsider questions)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
Why not? I don't think not leaving by Oct 31st will rub off on him. He can always gloat and say he got a parliament majority, as opposed to stalling and heckling Labour etc etc.
xp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
EU can extend to January 31st, say, and that is that, right? Parliament gets the four weeks to do the ~proper reading and scrutinizing~, agrees with more or less the same numbers, and presto. Unless I'm missing something really obvious here?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
*twelve weeks
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
He got a Parliamentary majority to go forward to a third reading of the bill, and promptly paused the process - not exactly on a victory march there - and, yes, there are now plenty of chances to gum up the works.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
God forbid but if I was on BJ's cuntish spin team, I'd see enough opportunities to spin this into a net positive.
I hope you are way more on point than I am, Tom :-(
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
I'm sitting watching the coverage of this and I've yet to see anyone who supports the deal with anything approaching a smile on their face.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
BJ is closer to what he wants, smile or no smile.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
The shadow leader, Valerie Vaz, reiterates Labour’s offer to work to find a consensus on the Brexit bill’s timetabling.
I mean, this is the weakest of sauce tbh.
That's all about positioning Labour for the GE.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
The scrutiny this bill is now getting could get Lab MPs that were voting to re-consider...so not a done thing
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
Yes, and not just Labour MPs.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
That's what my "unless Lab MPs bother to read" was getting at.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
I don't think not leaving the EU on Oct 31st will really harm BJ. It's a "broken promise", but he can easily point to how opposition "obstructed" him again and again. At least he "got a deal" and "got support", is probably what will be thrown in our faces for the near eternity. Also, breaking promises is BJ's raison d'etre, it never hurt him before iirc.
Let amendments and obstacles commence obv, but I fail to see how this is a big blow. If anything, it's a minor obstacle. He knows how to sell this and spin it into a win. But what do I know?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
Here's to scrutiny!
Oh god, someone on beeb world service just used the word "flextension". He apologised tbfttt :-/
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
Stoked for the scrutiny tbh.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
The division list for the programme motion shows just five Labour MPs rebelled to support it. They were joined by 285 Tory MPs and 18 independents in supporting the motion. Those Labour MPs are: Kevin Barron Jim Fitzpatrick Caroline Flint Kate Hoey John Mann
Kevin Barron Jim Fitzpatrick Caroline Flint Kate Hoey John Mann
No surprises here.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link