US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

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xp, clearly not alone in that take; i hope they both get sucked down in the quagmire and their kompromat comes out anyway

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

its particularly infuriating b/c the reality is the Dems waited pretty much as long as they could before impeaching, the Ukraine stuff was so blatantly illegal that it basically forced their hand

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

we could only wish in every sense was true

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

"Here's my hand. Now force it!"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

Cannot see tiny hand

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

a good chunk of twitter seems to be using the moment to provide some historical perspective on lynching, so silver lining i suppose

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

should have stuck with witchhunt

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

a political mob seeking an outcome regardless of facts.

Incredible how un-selfaware all these ppl are

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

"I know you are but what am I" is basically the party motto now.

Incredible how un-selfaware all these ppl are

sadder galaxy brain: they are very aware

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

i'm sure Grifter or an ally will bring Clarence Thomas into this in a few hours

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

"the President isn't getting due process!"

"Hey provide us these people and documents so we can--"

"No"

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

XP Newt brought it up on The View (which he was guest co-hosting) this morning.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

Lotsa fun details emerging:

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/22/william-taylor-ukraine-testimony-trump-054259

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Pfft.

BREAKING: Anonymous author of NYT Trump ‘resistance’ op-ed to publish a tell-all bookhttps://t.co/wd4Z6728ha

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) October 22, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

"It is I, friend to Pierre Delecto!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

#basta

badg, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Taylor's full statement is here.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/6oaREa1.png

wow, john bolton the warmongering asshole...relatively ethical actor in this shitshow? wtf

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

That detail's been public for a bit but yeah.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

John Bolton, welcome to the resistance

Simon H., Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

Taylor's statement pretty much confirms the exact thing the president is trying to deny

will it really matter is the question

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/qFnOCiK.png

Mr. Danyliuk: it seems you have stepped in a Pynchon novel, Mr. Taylor

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

I mean the crazy thing about this is that Ukraine is just one of dozens and dozens of countries receiving millions in U.S. assistance

Does anyone really *not* think Trump is running his protection racket on them, too?

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

depends what you mean by "matter" - will GOP congress start to desert him? no

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Taylor's statement pretty much confirms the exact thing the president is trying to deny. will it really matter is the question

Matter in what sense? Because asshole is going to get impeached. The sub-question is, will impeachment matter? I don't know!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

xxp He only has one Rudy to go around

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

my guess is that at this point Pelosi is just trying to make sure she has an airtight case that will give enough cover to swing district Dems to vote to impeach. This looks extremely likely, at this point.

The Senate is a different game.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

if impeachment were decided by a neutral jury rather than by the Senate, you'd just have to drop Taylor's testimony and then rest

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

again: impeachment is not decided by the senate

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

xp but yes

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

fine, removal (which is deciding whether impeachment was warranted)

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

his opening statement is very well crafted, and genuinely insightful in certain ways. like this:

https://imgur.com/a/8ZYp9Nw

the trump stooge (sondland) parroting back trump's own alibis/explanations for his corruption: he's a businessman, and these people owe him. which fits with his longtime strategy of taking something hostage (ukraine military aid in this case) and then threatening to sue unless he extracts something that he wants. he's been a conman since he was born - he inherited his bullshit from his fuckface father and got dealt in with $millions when he was 3

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

that is pretty damning

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

The only defense I can imagine the GOP mustering*, in the House or Senate, is "Yes, this is bad, but does it warrant impeachment or removal? No." But of course that then begs the question, what punishment *does* it warrant? "Let the voters decide"?

*My imagination does not take into account their imagination.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

heh

Trump has said McConnell told him his call with the Ukrainian president at the center of the impeachment inquiry was “the most innocent phone call” and was “perfect.”

But when asked about it Tuesday, McConnell said, “I don’t recall any conversations with the president about that phone call.”

“We’ve not had any conversations on that subject,” McConnell told reporters at the Capitol. Asked whether Trump was lying, he demurred. “You’d have to ask him,” McConnell said.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

GOP is basically Chappelle in the R. Kelly sketch

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

the statement did mention pence, who seems to just blindly stumble his way in and out of the scene like a distracted mule. he comes across like a total stooge, but it's difficult to tell if he understands the role he's playing

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

TPM has busted out the rare full page headline banner. where were you on the day bill taylor totally blew it wide open

https://i.imgur.com/48Y8KS2.png

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

Abandoned military base in Manjib, Northern Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCKc4JoWgZY

Looks like our troops occupying it really were spirited away in the middle of the night.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

don't care about TPM, get back to me when there's Drudge sirens

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ZtEqBQ0.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

i will say that if taylor expresses himself as clearly irl as he does in his opening statement, he will be a very useful central public witness

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

I don't think we're going to see any public hearings in the House

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

he would asked to publicly testify as part of a senate trial, i would hope.

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

I think if we leave a bottle of rotgut in the prez quarters we might get a full Face in the Crowd meltdown (more his style than Nixon talking to the paintings).

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

...unless lindsey graham interrupts the roberts-led proceedings to deliver a speech to save the foundations of america, like he did during kavanaugh

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link


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