PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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I suspect the climate emergency will have nothing to worry about, all sunlit uplands as far as the eyes can see.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

speaking of the climate emergency, here's some great news for the uk economy

The UK is planning to invest in Argentina’s controversial oil shale industry using a £1bn export finance deal intended to support green energy, according to government documents seen by the Guardian.

UK Export Finance, the government’s foreign credit agency, promised in 2017 to offer loans totalling £1bn to help UK companies export their expertise in “infrastructure, green energy and healthcare” to invest in Argentina’s economy.

Instead official records, released through a freedom of information request, have revealed the government’s plan to prioritise support for major oil companies, including Shell and BP, which are fracking in Argentina’s vast Vaca Muerta shale heartlands.

One government memo, uncovered by Friends of the Earth, said that while Argentina’s clean energy sector was growing, it was “Argentina’s huge shale resources that offer the greatest potential” for the UK.

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

i was just about to ask how the apparent narrow majority in favour of the WA turns into a majority against the programme motion but i guess the House contains some very deep thinkers

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

You can think the bill should move on, but not at breakneck speed

stet, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

Isn't the programme motion about leaving by the 31st which pushes debate time down?

The Lab MPs and the like of Rory Stewart want to vote for Johnson's deal, but they also want to be seen to have made a considered choice, which means it is to vote by Nov sometime xp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

The problem for Johnson is that he will break his promise, so he is threatening to pull the bill. Not sure whether he will actually do so.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

i can see the sophist arguments for the two positions but in realpolitik you either take *every* opportunity to block the thing or you're a feeb

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

they're essentially wanting to perform the semblance of scrutinizing the fucker but really they've already "reluctantly" decided to pass it, and the performance is not gonna endear to them to the section of the electorate they seem to want to appease by passing the deal

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHfKo-WWwAEBgbz?format=png
Familiar choice of colours

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

big blobby energy

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

Indeed

Fixed that for you, CCHQ...#WithdrawalAgreementBill pic.twitter.com/4yppl6xeMP

— Rt Hon Sir Peter Mannion KCB MP (@PeterMannionMP) October 22, 2019

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

Dick Braine won't be happy.

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

Dominic Cummings pandering to the Blobby lobby.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

on newton's colour theory wheel they are complimentary colours, yet they still give me a headache.

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.

otm. They posted one in Comic Sans about quarter of an hour ago and now 'Comic Sans' is trending on Twitter

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link

In response to these points, a BBC spokesperson yesterday said: “While our journalists always prefer on-the-record quotes, there is a well-established practice in politics of reporting information from unnamed sources to give audiences a greater sense of what is going on in Westminster.

“Laura Kuenssberg is a fantastic journalist who helps audiences make sense of the Brexit story with her in-depth analysis and expertise.”

I want whatever strong drugs bbc spokesperson is on

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

i dunno man, drugs strong enough to make laura k seem like a fantastic journalist seem like they'd be pretty risky

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

Elsewhere:

Moments with Mr. Kissinger, former Prime Ministers Tony Blair and John Howard, Ms. Condoleezza Rice and Mr. Robert Gates. 

Excellent discussions with these global thought leaders. pic.twitter.com/OPBheNkpPe

— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) October 22, 2019

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

find a lover who will longingly gaze at you like how Modi does at Kissinger

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

What sort of body count are we guessing between those guys?

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

on the day the picture was taken alone, or cumulatively

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

they're all taking the piss out of Modi for his relatively poor numbers

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

the No's column on that spreadsheet has just gone down by another one.

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

Letwin now supporting the plan to push the bill through. Never trust a Tory.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

thought he always said he was supporting the WAB

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

Yes, but now he's supporting rushing it through with little or no scrutiny. The hope was some of these ex-Tory Tories would vote to prevent that.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

Oliver Let Win

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Etymologically it just means 'the Lithuanian'.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

.@lisanandy taking some flak. But this highlights the sometimes counter intuitive complexity of the different readings. I recall I voted at 2nd reading for A50 in hope 3rd reading could be sufficiently amended. It wasn’t so I voted against and resigned. Not always straight fwd. https://t.co/OUFHYC0L2w

— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) October 22, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

Letwin is saying the bill is a lesser evil and might be pulled if program motion is voted down, wouldn't it getting pulled be good seeing as it's got NDB 2020 springloaded into it and loads of other bad shit - i don't see how delaying a smack in the gob and a later series of kickings makes it a lesser problem.

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

Etymologically it just means 'the Lithuanian'.


Really?

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it's a variant of Litwin (pronounced Leetvin or something like that), which means 'Lithuanian' in Polish.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

this was a very welcoming and open country - back in the days of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth!

calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

I work on Operation Yellowhammer. We all know what we’re doing is for show

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/22/operation-yellowhammer-brexit-preparations

Signed, a civil servant. Graun publishing this rn sinks all my hopes they have something hotter on BJ.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

keir hardie loved the lithuanians:

"For the second time in their history Messrs. Merry and Cunninghame have introduced a number of Russian Poles to Glengarnock Ironworks. What object they have in doing so is beyond human ken unless it is, as stated by a speaker at Irvine, to teach men how to live on garlic and oil, or introduce the Black Death, so as to get rid of the surplus labourers."

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

xps to pom, interesting, reminds me of

Yet many of our top politicians are of French origin. The name Cameron comes from Cambernon in Normandy, Corbyn from Corbon in Calvados and Farage is a French Huguenot name.

Only the Lib Dems’ Tim Farron can claim to have authentic old English heritage. His surname means “good-looking servant”.

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

Mark Francois in particular cannot but elicit nominative hilarity.

That said, those proposed etymologies are somewhat iffy (as such things tend to be tbh). 'Cameron' could also be derived from Gaelic and 'Corbyn' may be related to the French 'corbeau' (raven). It's not an exact science, unfortunately, but I still get a huge kick out of it!

pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

the Tories have hired the social media team (Topham Guerin) from the 2019 Australian election. after they won they did a victory lap gloating about making "boomer memes" to drive engagement from leftwing mockery

— James (@Gilofthepeople) October 22, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

I am not Russian at all; I come from Lithuania, I am a real German.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link

Yet many of our top politicians are of French origin. The name Cameron comes from Cambernon in Normandy, Corbyn from Corbon in Calvados and Farage is a French Huguenot name.

Only the Lib Dems’ Tim Farron can claim to have authentic old English heritage. His surname means “good-looking servant”.

Not as clear cut as that.

Cameron is a Scottish surname and thus somewhat common throughout the English-speaking world.

There are several possible origins. One is from a Gaelic-language nickname, derived from cam ("crooked", "bent") and sròn ("nose"). Another is from any of the various places called Cameron, especially such places located in Fife, Scotland.[1] Another possible origin of the Scottish placename (from which the surname is thought to be derived in some cases) is from Cambernon, in Normandy.[2] The English-language surname can be rendered into Scottish Gaelic as: Camarran[3] (masculine), Chamarran (feminine); or as Camshron[4] (masculine) and Chamshron (feminine).

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

Corby still a word for crows in Scots.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

the twa corbyns

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

💥 @FinancialTimes analysis of Commons arithmetic for the programme motion vote tonight suggests Boris could lose by -3.

But the situation is incredibly fluid - only requires two MPs to change their minds. All down to Independent Tories now.https://t.co/O5GarJTsOw pic.twitter.com/Qs6mXNBQMy

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) October 22, 2019

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

Johnson threatening to throw a tantrum if he can't get his WA thru immediately is a terrible look that ought to be exploited. his ERG pals ought to realise it endangers everything they've gained.

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

lol jed

pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

the nerve of this tan

🚨 THIS JUST HAPPENED.

Former NI Secretary @OwenPaterson has quoted Michael Collins - in Westminster - as he voices his support for the #Brexit deal.

He ended it by saying "I hope I don't follow the fate of Michael Collins". pic.twitter.com/8MCJ1bWd0g

— Darran Marshall (@DarranMarshall) October 22, 2019

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

Obsessed with this clip. Just steams in there with “the Dáil Iran” and then goes for the full thing.

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

yeah, didn't know the big man was active that far afield

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link


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