PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Smeeth and Snell sound like names that fictional Victorian grave-robbers would have.

I'm a simple man, all I want is a flowchart with a pop-art explosion behind a square box reading "Sinn Féin take their seats!"

Sounds like Rory is against programme motion

We need to protect parliamentary democracy by respecting BOTH the sovereignty of parliament AND the referendum. That means delivering a deal with proper process + scrutiny. Ramming through the bill will further undermine confidence in our institutions. We must do this properly. https://t.co/fJIzqrwywN

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) October 22, 2019

Apols, is that spreadsheet a voting projection for BJ's bill?

Yes.

When is the vote on programme motion?

Reportedly after 7 pm.

No to PM on the spreadsheet went down by 1 whilst I was out.

Peter Oborne withering on the way the BBC allow anonymous govt spokesppl to play them and thus to mislead the public

Gloria De Piero, MP for Ashfield, says she is also minded to support the Brexit bill “not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”. She says she wants to opportunity to amend it in parliament.

LOL we're all... you know the rest

“not because I support the deal, but because I don’t”.

lol this is crackers

I'm afraid that's he calibre of MP the Labour Party is saddled with at the moment.

... and this.

Labour’s Don Valley MP, Caroline Flint, who has said she will vote for the WAB, asks for reassurance that the bill will protect the climate emergency. Johnson says: “I can make that commitment.”

Sounds legit.

He's a man of his word, you see.

He's known for his strong commitment ... ask his ex-wives, mistresses and unacknowledged children.

I suspect the climate emergency will have nothing to worry about, all sunlit uplands as far as the eyes can see.

speaking of the climate emergency, here's some great news for the uk economy

The UK is planning to invest in Argentina’s controversial oil shale industry using a £1bn export finance deal intended to support green energy, according to government documents seen by the Guardian.

UK Export Finance, the government’s foreign credit agency, promised in 2017 to offer loans totalling £1bn to help UK companies export their expertise in “infrastructure, green energy and healthcare” to invest in Argentina’s economy.

Instead official records, released through a freedom of information request, have revealed the government’s plan to prioritise support for major oil companies, including Shell and BP, which are fracking in Argentina’s vast Vaca Muerta shale heartlands.

One government memo, uncovered by Friends of the Earth, said that while Argentina’s clean energy sector was growing, it was “Argentina’s huge shale resources that offer the greatest potential” for the UK.

i was just about to ask how the apparent narrow majority in favour of the WA turns into a majority against the programme motion but i guess the House contains some very deep thinkers

You can think the bill should move on, but not at breakneck speed

Isn't the programme motion about leaving by the 31st which pushes debate time down?

The Lab MPs and the like of Rory Stewart want to vote for Johnson's deal, but they also want to be seen to have made a considered choice, which means it is to vote by Nov sometime xp

The problem for Johnson is that he will break his promise, so he is threatening to pull the bill. Not sure whether he will actually do so.

i can see the sophist arguments for the two positions but in realpolitik you either take *every* opportunity to block the thing or you're a feeb

they're essentially wanting to perform the semblance of scrutinizing the fucker but really they've already "reluctantly" decided to pass it, and the performance is not gonna endear to them to the section of the electorate they seem to want to appease by passing the deal

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHfKo-WWwAEBgbz?format=png
Familiar choice of colours

big blobby energy

They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.

Indeed

Fixed that for you, CCHQ...#WithdrawalAgreementBill pic.twitter.com/4yppl6xeMP

— Rt Hon Sir Peter Mannion KCB MP (@PeterMannionMP) October 22, 2019

Dick Braine won't be happy.

Dominic Cummings pandering to the Blobby lobby.

on newton's colour theory wheel they are complimentary colours, yet they still give me a headache.

They are spamming their own timeline with a range of these, all deliberately(?) terrible. Gets them looked at and talked about (any publicity) I guess.

otm. They posted one in Comic Sans about quarter of an hour ago and now 'Comic Sans' is trending on Twitter

In response to these points, a BBC spokesperson yesterday said: “While our journalists always prefer on-the-record quotes, there is a well-established practice in politics of reporting information from unnamed sources to give audiences a greater sense of what is going on in Westminster.

“Laura Kuenssberg is a fantastic journalist who helps audiences make sense of the Brexit story with her in-depth analysis and expertise.”

I want whatever strong drugs bbc spokesperson is on

i dunno man, drugs strong enough to make laura k seem like a fantastic journalist seem like they'd be pretty risky

Elsewhere:

Moments with Mr. Kissinger, former Prime Ministers Tony Blair and John Howard, Ms. Condoleezza Rice and Mr. Robert Gates. 

Excellent discussions with these global thought leaders. pic.twitter.com/OPBheNkpPe

— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) October 22, 2019

https://swlibrarian.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/return-of-the-jedi-final-scene.jpg

find a lover who will longingly gaze at you like how Modi does at Kissinger

What sort of body count are we guessing between those guys?

on the day the picture was taken alone, or cumulatively

they're all taking the piss out of Modi for his relatively poor numbers

the No's column on that spreadsheet has just gone down by another one.

Letwin now supporting the plan to push the bill through. Never trust a Tory.

thought he always said he was supporting the WAB

Yes, but now he's supporting rushing it through with little or no scrutiny. The hope was some of these ex-Tory Tories would vote to prevent that.

Oliver Let Win

Etymologically it just means 'the Lithuanian'.

.@lisanandy taking some flak. But this highlights the sometimes counter intuitive complexity of the different readings. I recall I voted at 2nd reading for A50 in hope 3rd reading could be sufficiently amended. It wasn’t so I voted against and resigned. Not always straight fwd. https://t.co/OUFHYC0L2w

— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) October 22, 2019

Letwin is saying the bill is a lesser evil and might be pulled if program motion is voted down, wouldn't it getting pulled be good seeing as it's got NDB 2020 springloaded into it and loads of other bad shit - i don't see how delaying a smack in the gob and a later series of kickings makes it a lesser problem.

Etymologically it just means 'the Lithuanian'.

Yeah, it's a variant of Litwin (pronounced Leetvin or something like that), which means 'Lithuanian' in Polish.