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Seeing these tentpoles on opening night in an old double-decker theater, with a packed house, is rarely not worth it

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 04:21 (four years ago) link

Can I make a brief observation? (I'm sure there are a zillion other Star Wars threads, but this is the one on top.)

I'm far from a trve kvlt SW fan (though I have friends like that -- one guy had a podcast for a few years, collects the toy figures, etc.). Like most ppl my age, I grew up loving the movies; bought a secondhand "visual encyclopedia" or two in the prequel era; etc. I have no deep investment in defending the "honor" of the property, and I lack the depth of knowledge to get into nerd-level discourse. But a person I follow on Twitter occasionally retweets these dudes declaring that they've found a new "plot hole" in the Star Wars storyline or mythology... and then a bunch of their followers pile on with smug affirmations (like, "Love to wear my Jedi robe and use my real last name when I'm supposed to be hiding out from space Nazis," or whatever).

And I can never resist butting in with a explanation/rebuttal, because (a) it feels lame to be picking apart a narrative that (to my understanding) wasn't even really fleshed out beyond the first movie when that was made, let alone planned to take shape the way it is, after being cobbled together over the decades; but also (b) I realize that there actually *are* good responses to these "gotcha!" posts, which even I (in my casual fandom) am able to easily identify and point out. If anything, it's impressive how reasonably coherent the SW universe actually is, when you realize how these little nitpicks actually can be resolved if you step back and apply a little thought to the problem ("No-Prize" style), rather than rushing to publicly declare what a supreme boss you are for having outwitted the combined forces of George Lucas, Walt Disney, and Ron Howard. You know what I mean? That shit bugs me!

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

All mythmakers run into the same problem set fwiw. Pointing out plot holes in your epic of choice often just illustrates how blind you are to the ur-narrative, or something. All heroes are pie filling; all worlds are pastry - the way you tell an American story is there’s no lid.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link

This looks tired and overstuffed. And they're riding silly horse creatures (again). Nice color grading, though.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 07:15 (four years ago) link

Y U no like horsies

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

Apropos of Ned's comment above re: the music, if you're into SW music you can do worse than following this guy on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/fmlehman

That big iceberg in space looks good but Abrams still seems particularly reluctant to introduce new types of location into Star Wars (I don't think Death Star On Sea counts here and the stormy element makes it quite reminiscent of Kamino from Ep 2) so we're back to lots of scenes on Jakkooine and Forest Planet/Moon (lol is it Endor tho or what).

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

can't wait to find out who finally wins the Star War

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

mods can we threadban morbs and shakey

Another new trailer. I like the direction they're going in.

https://youtu.be/PMW4Ad8fIF4?t=209

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link

can't wait to find out who finally wins the Star War

The dudes who collect building utility data, obv.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

That big iceberg in space looks good but Abrams still seems particularly reluctant to introduce new types of location into Star Wars

not his fault they've already done all the types of planets

Number None, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

I was thinking the same thing... not sure how many new environments they can really incorporate (or if that should even be a goal). Anyway, the jungle moon really is Endor, right?

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

can't wait to find out who finally wins the Star War


the winner,,, is the moviegoing public

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

they should do a planet with two biomes. the characters could go from one to another and be struck dumb w bewilderment

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

bubble planet
garbage planet
lava planet
crystal planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

planet made up of tiny sentient death stars
sentient planet
gambling planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

fur planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

They did the gambling planet in the last movie, it was da worst sequence

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

garbage planet

it's called Ord Mantell and it rules

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

They did the gambling planet in the last movie, it was da worst sequence

They did the gambling planet in the last movie, it was some quality Star Warsing

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

hair planet
cubicle planet
DMV planet

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

Nazi planet
gangster planet
Roman planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:01 (four years ago) link

lol

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

planet bearing an uncanny resemblance to mid-20th-century earth

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

Medieval Times planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

Car planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

baobob

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

discarded receipts planet
argumentative planet
smug planet

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

planet of the apes

icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

is palpy actually going to be in this?

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

yes, are you tired of winning yet

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

Yeah. I think he prefers to be called "Sheevsy" though

icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

jazz planet

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

YOUR COMING TOGETHER... WILL BE YOUR UNDOING genuinely made me lol tho so good job if they meant to

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Casino scene could've been great in the last one but was uninspired (altho the tracking shot Wings homage was great). Should've had giant size version of Dejarik, people getting freaked out thinking the holograms were real monsters (would've made a good Back To The Future 2 homage). Also the story idk...

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

It's about the atmospheres you're not feeling, man.

xxp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

So will there be Ewoks in this or what?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

rapping ewoks

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

the one Ewok we thought sadly died in ROTJ was cloned by Palps and man he is pissed

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

Ewoks repping.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

Ewoks in The Battle of Epping Forest.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

lol

Re: Ewoks — sadly, the Endor Holocaust theory may be validated in this movie

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

i will actually watch this if palpy is in it. otherwise no.

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

I liked Endor Holocaust's first couple of records, but when the songs got shorter and more commercial they started to suck imo.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

hair planet
cubicle planet
DMV planet

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:00 PM bookmarkflaglink

Nazi planet
gangster planet
Roman planet

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:01 PM bookmarkflaglink

Jfk
Blown away

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

planet bearing an uncanny resemblance to mid-20th-century earth

― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:21 AM (one hour ago)

god that looks deplorable

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

is nar shaddaa in this movie

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link


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