Technological/practical "backward steps" we all just accept now

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in fairness playing while talking with your pals on the headset is quite social

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:18 (eight months ago) link

the nearest coffee shop to my house not only doesn't take cash but doesn't take chip either. you have to have tap to buy anything.

Whoa, is this how it is in Vancouver now? Where I live, every time I tap, the person at the counter is still surprised to see the tap, it has not really caught on.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 21 October 2019 22:28 (eight months ago) link

Compared to the US, Canada is a lot tap friendlier. And compared to North America, it was nearly completely ubiquitous when I was in Poland and it worked with Apple Pay, no exceptions found. Makes me feel very backward at home

mh, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 02:53 (eight months ago) link

yeah, considering how in Canada it feels like we are always 1 or 2 years behind the U.S. technology-wise, it's always weird to me every time I go to the U.S. how they seem to be far behind everybody else when it comes to credit card technology.

silverfish, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 13:54 (eight months ago) link

Its crazy to me how even the little handheld credit card machines are not ubiquitous in here the USA. Sometimes in canada at bars or restaurants I will still occasionally slip up and start to hand the server my credit card and they will be completely amused that Americans consider it normal to hand their credit card to a complete stranger.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:48 (eight months ago) link

And the weird bit where the server goes away and something happens, and then they hand the card back to you, and then you add the tip, then the transaction finally happens once you're gone - that this is all fine is pretty They Live tbh.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 14:57 (eight months ago) link

Yeah I was not prepared for that having had a fourteen year gap between visits to the US and pretty much used cash only the previous time.

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:15 (eight months ago) link

Rest assured I still tipped well and I don't mean the British well

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 15:15 (eight months ago) link

The big handsome mechanical flipboard or lightbulb-array signs showing arrivals and departures at the train station, ferry terminal, and so forth have been replaced by TV screens. Less maintenance, more visibility from a distance, and now you get to wait through an ad before you can see when the next boat is.

mick signals, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:10 (eight months ago) link

That reminds me, I miss the old mechanical voting machines. I felt I had truly voted when I pulled that big lever back. The current Scantron-style voting system elicits no feeling at all.

Josefa, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:16 (eight months ago) link

was typing in word with track changes running and was getting pissed at the latency screwing up my flow. granted, turning off track changes sped up the response, but it reminded me of this article from a little while back:

https://gizmodo.com/the-one-way-your-laptop-is-actually-slower-than-a-30-ye-1821608743

andrew m., Friday, 1 November 2019 20:31 (eight months ago) link

Latency is also a big issue with audio sequencing and electronic music-making. Modern audio sequencers for Windows or MacOS sit on top of a complex operating system that manages everything with APIs, so they can't communicate directly with the bare metal. The greater speed of modern hardware compensates for the layers of abstraction but even small delays can sound off.

Early drum machines used a simple clock trigger input as a synchronisation source - essentially a sharp CLICK! - and because the machines didn't have an abstraction layer they responded more or less instantly to clock inputs. Before MIDI was introduced in the 1980s synthesisers used CV/Gate to communicate with each other. It was a mixture of control voltages and click pulses that responded at the speed of light without having to pass through an 8-bit CPU first. Vince Clarke famously gave up on MIDI in the 1990s because he felt that it had a jittery clock, and if there were a lot of MIDI devices in a chain the jitter became noticeable.

There has been a resurgence in CV/Gate over the last few years. In the late-80s-90s-early 2000s it was dead as doornail. A bunch of modern retro analogue synthesisers have CV/Gate ports, and Arturia and others sell modern sequencers with CV/Gate outputs. Korg's battery-powered Volca instruments have simple clock trigger inputs, as do the Teenage Engineering Pocket Operators. Here's a video I did a while back where all the instruments are being driven by CV/Gate or clock trigger pulses coming from an ancient Power Macintosh G5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRj2AOxwK5E

Digital audio sequencers also have trouble with latency. Again it's less of an issue than it was in the 2000s, but if you mix virtual and live instruments it can get awkward. In the early days of VST instruments a lot of musicians still hung on to Atari STs driving Akai samplers because the latency was lower; the ST still has a tiny cult following today because the signal path is basically Cubase -> MIDI Out -> Instrument rather than Cubase -> I/O buffers -> Windows I/O APIs -> Windows sound subsystem.

Ashley Pomeroy, Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:29 (eight months ago) link

this right here is a motherfuckin POST

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:55 (eight months ago) link

In the late-80s-90s-early 2000s

During which electronic music all sounded terrible because of “jittery clocks”

El Tomboto, Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:06 (eight months ago) link

xxpost

Awesome post!

beard papa, Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:12 (eight months ago) link

I can highly recommend an Innerclock Systems Syncgen pro to fix sync issues. Cost about £300 on Ebay and fixed all my issues syncing a load of Elektron boxes to Ableton back when I was doing live pa stuff. Total liberty having to do that in this day and age though!

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:14 (eight months ago) link

I would legit pay £50 to have every device I ever use accept (the lowest level of) all cookies for lyfe without me having to click anything

kinder, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:02 (eight months ago) link

my niece from abroad has been travelling round Europe and since she came to the UK she thought there was some setting broken on her phone due to constantly being asked to accept cookies
Also lots of US sites I can't access "due to GDPR"

kinder, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:03 (eight months ago) link

i still can't read the ny daily news

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:20 (eight months ago) link

I'm consistently shocked by how many mobile websites remain unnavigable garbage. The format has been around for a while now, y'all.

Maybe you wanna lay off the Mountain Dew, there, Burt. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:52 (eight months ago) link

I miss cartoons, like actual cartoons as opposed to super-creepy uncanny valley 3D-rendered affairs where everyone and everything looks like custom fetishware

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:07 (eight months ago) link

I have got used to the experience of clicking a link to a mobile website and getting an opaque grey box covering the text and stopping me from scrolling. I have no idea whether it's a pop up ad or a cookie or gdpr thing. Won't even bother clicking NYT or Times links any more.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:44 (eight months ago) link

I miss cartoons, like actual cartoons as opposed to super-creepy uncanny valley 3D-rendered affairs where everyone and everything looks like custom fetishware

I feel ya but I don't think this counts as a technological backward step so much as us not keeping up with the aesthetics of the time, sadly.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:00 (eight months ago) link

They redid the bathrooms at work so now when I'm sitting and move slightly it will flush automatically, resulting in 2-3 flushes per event rather than the usual 1.

joygoat, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:20 (eight months ago) link

Exact same here. Bloody things.

stet, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:24 (eight months ago) link

clicking on a headline and google opening an app or a formatted-for phone-page with a load of pain in the ass features

deems of internment (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:26 (eight months ago) link

They redid the bathrooms at work so now when I'm sitting and move slightly it will flush automatically, resulting in 2-3 flushes per event rather than the usual 1.


Auto flushing toilets scare my kid, so I drape a small piece of tissue over the sensor.

beard papa, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:06 (eight months ago) link

I have got used to the experience of clicking a link to a mobile website and getting an opaque grey box covering the text and stopping me from scrolling.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l1BgRViJVF8ZW686s/giphy.gif

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:23 (eight months ago) link

I miss cartoons, like actual cartoons as opposed to super-creepy uncanny valley 3D-rendered affairs where everyone and everything looks like custom fetishware

I feel ya but I don't think this counts as a technological backward step so much as us not keeping up with the aesthetics of the time, sadly.

― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:00 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Oh yeah, totes mcgroats, and I realise I'm shouting at cluods here. But at the same time, it does mean that anything created on a computer a few years ago will look weird and dated. And I'm just not into nightmare dummy replicants walking around. I do like how the 'hauntology' aesthetic has moved from 70s stop-animation shows to the stilted polygons of original Playstation games. Vaporwave being the little brother of hauntology.

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:43 (eight months ago) link

They redid the bathrooms at work so now when I'm sitting and move slightly it will flush automatically, resulting in 2-3 flushes per event rather than the usual 1.

They have motion sensors on the lights here, so if you sit there for too long you're plunged into darkness. And the sensor is outside the cubicle, so you can imagine the scenarios...

fetter, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:49 (eight months ago) link

lmao

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:59 (eight months ago) link

wmab

deems of internment (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:24 (eight months ago) link

Remove sock, roll up sock, toss over the cubicle door

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:28 (eight months ago) link

no thats when you discover theres no loo roll iirc

deems of internment (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:48 (eight months ago) link

I stayed at an airbnb that apparently had a motion light in the bathroom! I had to wave my arm to let it know I was still on the toilet.

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:01 (eight months ago) link

Ugh i hate those.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:13 (eight months ago) link

Thirty seconds ago:

-wave hand in front of faucet sensor
-water comes out of faucet
-wave hand in front of soap sensor
-soap comes out of dispenser
-lather
-wave hand in front of faucet sensor
-soap squirts into sink
-wave hand in front of faucet sensor
-more soap squirts into sink
-wave hand more fervently in front of faucet sensor
-soap puddle achieves volume sufficient to begin slowly running towards drain
-wave hand dejectedly in front of faucet sensor until the futility of doing so finally sinks in
-look into mirror
-sigh heavily
-water comes out of faucet without sensor being directly engaged

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:01 (eight months ago) link

this is why you should never wash your hands

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:04 (eight months ago) link

This is what I get for trying something new.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:06 (eight months ago) link

When i shake someone's hand and it's soapy, i always know who couldn't get the sensor to work

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:30 (eight months ago) link

the case for never washing your hands is only getting stronger

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:32 (eight months ago) link

Imo BYOS

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 15:32 (eight months ago) link

One thing it took me a long time to realize is that most sensor-activated faucets work better if you simply hold your hands still in front of the sensor instead of waving them.

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:37 (eight months ago) link

How about kicking them hard, does that help

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:58 (eight months ago) link

we'll just all have an easier time if we learn to serve the machines, guys

maffew12, Thursday, 14 November 2019 18:59 (eight months ago) link

Best thing to do is stay perfectly still. If you startle the sensor it may summon a security bear

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:01 (eight months ago) link

we're through the restroom glass people

maffew12, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:08 (eight months ago) link

I stayed at an airbnb that apparently had a motion light in the bathroom! I had to wave my arm to let it know I was still on the toilet.

― mh, Wednesday, November 13, 2019 5:01 AM (yesterday)

i think it was akm a while back who posted about it, but some of these things are now written into building codes to be "energy efficient" -- maybe this is some Berkeley, CA specific thing, because I don't think this is a requirement in Oakland (the next city over, same county)

sarahell, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:21 (eight months ago) link

Smacking the faucets doesn't work, but smacking the sensor paper towel dispensers absolutely does work, without fail!

Dan I., Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:28 (eight months ago) link


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