the Disney-Fox merger and film/TV production/exhibition hegemony in general

But that's not the fault of 'super-hero' cinema! That's a logical continuation of the blockbuster / tentpole paradigm established by Lucas and Spielberg! Without Superheroes, Disney would still make exclusively remakes of old cartoons, and Warner Brothers would make a gritty reboot of The Wizard of Oz, or something.

That's same shithead as earlier - I notice you didn't post his tweet about how if Marvel want to make serious cinematic movies, they should look at what DC are doing.

bcz I don't give a fuck

a fuckitty flying fuckitty fuck, in fact

it's like the dietary equivalent of theaters serving a guaranteed four screens worth of Doritos every week, and if you blink and miss the moment they shove a nice dish out on the buffet for a week, you'll get more Doritos

I love some Doritos in moderation, but this is getting insane

gentlemen you can't kvetch about comicbook movies in here, this is the Disney-Fox thread

But that's not the fault of 'super-hero' cinema! That's a logical continuation of the blockbuster / tentpole paradigm established by Lucas and Spielberg! Without Superheroes, Disney would still make exclusively remakes of old cartoons, and Warner Brothers would make a gritty reboot of The Wizard of Oz, or something.

yeah but superhero movies are the movies that are doing it now, today - whatever their antecedents are, the effect theyre having is what it is. Its not like he should have said 'those movies aren't cinema, nor would a theoretical different bad movie be, if it were to be made in an alternate universe where comic book movies don't exist."

it's like the dietary equivalent of theaters serving a guaranteed four screens worth of Doritos every week, and if you blink and miss the moment they shove a nice dish out on the buffet for a week, you'll get more Doritos

I love some Doritos in moderation, but this is getting insane

gentlemen you can't kvetch about comicbook movies in here, this is the Disney-Fox thread

'not food' is the analogy there.

I think Scorsese et al would argue that what is being served is not cuisine

in any case, as a friend is fond of quoting, there are many things you can eat that are not food

Are there really people who believe that what Scorsese meant was that marvel movies are literally not movies?

'I hate all these burger bars, they're not cuisine'

That guy would be laughed at :)

Yes, it’s silly of him to prefer to eat better food

Are there really people who believe that what Scorsese meant was that marvel movies are literally not movies?

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), 21. oktober 2019 18:49 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

He literally continued: Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. I think you're underestimating how stupid Scorsese is.

So the way you interpret that quote is that he is so stupid he literally thinks they are theme parks

Can somebody cut and paste the definition of "rhetoric" cos I can't be bothered

oh fred b has bullshit opinions on things other than politics? who knew

we oft misunderestimate him

i also wd prefer you not post an opinion on a film in response to me ever, fred

He literally continued: Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. I think you're underestimating how stupid Scorsese is.

It is bemusing how this is even controversial. People enjoy theme parks.

I think it's more bemusing that so many people want to defend the comments when they are obviously wrong and stupid.

imo both Scorsese and Coppola have comprehensible opinions *and* I enjoy most of these flicks

since I can't move beyond one analogy, it's like someone telling you they don't like a restaurant because the food is bland, but you go there on occasion because it's comfort food. you completely understand why they have no interest in it, but you're up for small doses yourself

I'm currently pondering what the first Fox property is that Disney will remake. Live action version of Fox Animation's Anastastia? Hrrm, probably not

many xps to the morbs tweet but, director's point aside, Bodied kind of sucked.

I think of superhero movies as in the same category as Broadway spectaculars; there are good and bad ones and some can be subversive and some are poisonous and occasionally there's a run of Uncle Vanya. More often it is variants on The Black Crook.
https://www.nypl.org/blog/2011/06/02/musical-month-black-crook

The crying over this is some ugly sore winner shit imo, whole industries devoted to catering to your shitty tastes but you still get to come the embattled outsider because the old man was MEAN about captain America wah

A while ago I came up with the idea for a gritty reboot of “it’s a good life”, that classic twilight zone ep where the kid is the centre of the universe and so everyone else is forced to watch the same baby programme and have birthday cake for dinner every single day. The only thing thing you need to change is make him a 30something and the punishment for any reaction short of rictus-grin approbation is to be turned into a funko pop

well said

although, prior to these comments, I would imagine a bunch of these people would buy a Scorsese or Coppola funko pop

they probably still would, because they have to have a full collection

'sore winner' or not, at the end of the day what Scorsese and Coppola is saying is just straight up wrong. and stupid. and that's honestly more important to me than who is an outsider or an underdog or whatever.

yes, they have opinions about art that are "wrong". a thing that definitely exists

btw Maleficent II "underperformed" at the b.o.

yes, they have opinions about art that are "wrong". a thing that definitely exists

― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), 21. oktober 2019 21:36 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Whatever, you're too full of bullshit to continue on communicating with. I'm going to listen to my favorite country record, Original Pirate Material.

"Show me on this Funko Pop where the mean old directors touched you..."

when did movie box office first become a spectator sport that the public took sides with? Star Wars?
it's a perverse thing to engage in imo but i am as guilty as the next person of wanting to be an INSIDER

Probably about 10 minutes after Spielberg took this ad out in Variety.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/566f52cc3da6b2362869d83a/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/star-wars-pop-culture-ss01.jpg

"Your hyperspace performance package"?

Saucy

he meant cocaine

Big Hyperspace Performance Package Energy

#1 film for more than five parsecs

https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html

the fucks are at it again

this is infuriating tbh

starting to think disney might suck and be bad, honestly

just let people enjoy things you monster

but i enjoy thinking disney sucks and is bad :(

More like a 'Tragic Kingdom', amirite?

no doubt

Disney+ is good now

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-jim-henson-company-is-bringing-an-alien-talk-show-c-1839355960