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― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
Get tae France wi' yer meaningless vote, ya wallopers. To paraphrase.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 21 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
Honestly if he could have done the thumbs down thing he would have
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
Bill Cash banging on about the European Communities act again, fuck this I’m out
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
repetitive and disorderly
Sounds about right.
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
they have truly drunk the kool aid on that april strong man poll
Jacob Rees-Moog says the government expects to conclude passing the Brexit bill through the Commons in just three days and MPs won’t even need to sit on Friday. The Maastricht Treaty took months.— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) October 21, 2019
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 21 October 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/21/tory-mps-reluctant-to-attach-customs-union-to-brexit-bill
Soft Brexit Tories are erm softening and might back Johnson's bill as it stands, as I thought they might.
However many pro-deal lab MPs may want the customs amendment...basically Jared will need to get another lift to the commons.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 October 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
it's pretty impressive how all these sensible grown-up Remain Tories have folded as predicted, apparently content with the tiniest figleaf possible
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
what happens if the programme motion fails?
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 21 October 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
"basically Jared will need to get another lift to the commons"
driving pissed oops-a-daisy 2 - the edgar wright brexit movie nobody wanted
― calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
can't believe this shitshow deal is going to pass
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
RIP to the Union
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
that I hear everyone cares about
mostly nutters tbh
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
Calz’ MP sounds wonderful:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/21/mp-paula-sherriff-jo-cox-murder-humbug-interview
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 21 October 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
She's not a Corbyn fan but hasn't made it her raison d'etre to publicly undermine him at every possible opportunity. I like her a lot.
― calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
my partner has umpteen parliamentary letters from her office, which means a lot to her seeing as her mobility is seriously diminished these days - it's easy to be cynical about this stuff but she genuinely seems to gaf.
― calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
I can't read 'WAB' without thinking about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbJ6AW9ZK-o
Much more appropriate, frankly.
― Matt DC, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
WAB is what Caitlin Moran calls boobs.
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 21 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 21 October 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
All eyes on the programme motion now
― stet, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
?! I thought the deal was voted down on Saturday
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
they didn't vote on the deal on saturday because before the deal was voted on an amendment to the deal was voted on, and passed, which required the prime minister to write to the european commission asking for an extension until january 31st
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 October 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
what happens if the programme motion goes down?
CU amendment looks DOA
Hear whole Tory One Nation grouping agreed tonight not to back customs union amendment— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) October 21, 2019
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 21 October 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
needs a lot of the 89 who abstained last time (including the SNP) to back it
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Monday, 21 October 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link
My constituency is OxWAb!
I haven't paid any attention to anything today and I'm not sure I can bear to start now. I guess I've reached the stage everyone else reached 3 years ago and decided that "just getting on with it" was the way out of that stage. *twitches*
RIP CU amendment, you were what once seemed like still a pretty fucking hard Brexit and was now seeming like the softest possible Brexit, and now you're not even a possible Brexit?
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
Is it really the first time the whole withdrawal agreement bill has been published? We never saw May’s right?!
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
― stet, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
I'm so confused
― Οὖτις, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
You'm not the only one
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
I find I have a better sense of what's going on when I read articles about Brexit in the French press, because they assume their readers are complete dummies in this regard (which I still very much am).
― pomenitul, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
The Lords aren’t going to rush this shit through lbr.
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link
RTÉ’s coverage is generally very good - here’s a piece about today that explains what the fuck is happening https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2019/1021/1084790-brexit-timeline/Btw, the British press isn’t treating its readers as knowledgeable, it’s got no interest in making Parliament easy to understand.
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
I don't think it's over yet and no way before 31 Oct without outrageous shenanigans
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 21 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
xp. yeah the british press is just shitty. there was a laura k tweet today "For a small niche subset of the population, this bill being published at 6ish tonight is going to be extremely exciting .. we never saw Theresa May's WAB, despite months of hot anticipation". how nice for you to be in the wee club of people in the know laura.
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 October 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
that sean whelan article explains it better than anything I've seen in the british press
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 October 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link
Be great if she could stop licking her lips at Boris for one second and do her fucking job
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
This is very short but gives a bit of info comparing the dealshttps://www.rte.ie/news/brexit-countdown/2019/1019/1084375-brexit-explainer/
― gyac, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Laura K/Laura K parody accounts - the bbc could save themselves a few hundred k a year there, but probably unfair to single her out when she is just one layer of the fucking rotting corpse.
― calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
take that back actually, she's fucking awful and deserves even more pelters than she currently gets
― calzino, Monday, 21 October 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
Good morning, sad to report that Lisa Nandy is at it again.
https://labourlist.org/2019/10/lisa-nandy-why-we-should-vote-for-the-brexit-bill-at-second-reading/
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 08:48 (four years ago) link
was that Towns Fund bribe all it really took to turn her or has she been on the yellow smarties again?
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link
Politics is nothing if not the hard graft of negotiating through difficult choices in the interests of the many. The rest is protest.
total Blairite speak there
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link
Protest is inherently at odds with the interests of the many? That makes no sense whatsoever.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link
thing is she sometimes contradicts herself by saying the exact opposite of that, she is very much a weather-vane as they say.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link
yeah but is it tho
The 110-page bill was published on Monday evening – and the chancellor, Sajid Javid, has said he does not intend to carry out an economic impact of it, because it is “self-evidently” in the UK’s interests to end uncertainty about Brexit.
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link
I'm sure nandy sees it as calling for realism to get ppl round the table. being MP of wigan is an unenviable job and I suspect this is a p honest representation of how a lot of ppl there feel. I don't really know how she's supposed to persuade her constituents, who have voted labour for a hundred years, have been fucked for decades, and no one seems to care about. being consulted on how things get worse clearly sounds p good to a lot of ppl
― ogmor, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 10:00 (four years ago) link
This is the clause which enables no deal:
Clause 30 of the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill. What happens if the Government doesn’t propose an extension? Parliament would have no say and we would exit the transition period on the 31 Dec 2020 even if a trade agreement hadn’t been reached by then with the EU; ie no deal. pic.twitter.com/mbCAsrX0eB— Hilary Benn (@hilarybennmp) October 21, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 10:02 (four years ago) link
wtf there's a 31 dec 2020? just don't tell me i don't want to know
― mark s, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link
I've always said people are often way too reductive when speaking of death.
― calzino, Tuesday, 22 October 2019 10:30 (four years ago) link