PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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In my experience, European ESL teachers are generally beholden to the notion that BBC English is the sole correct variant, so their students follow suit.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

All accents are good

YouGov to see it (wins), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

my younger kids are in an English language international section at their public French high school/middle school, where they take the regular courses in French and then have lit and history courses in English. their English-language teachers are Irish, Scots, and English. our kids are American and speak accordingly, but in order to get the highest marks in courses, and on the concours for the grands écoles, have to learn to speak BBC English (well, they call it Economist English).

hopefully after Brexit we'll all switch to Irish English, the nicest sounding version imo.

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

our kids are American and speak accordingly, but in order to get the highest marks in courses, and on the concours for the grands écoles, have to learn to speak BBC English

Sad. I remember discussing this with a Frenchwoman who had lived in London for a few years before moving back to Paris to teach ESL at the lycée level, and her overt contempt for non-BBC English and sociolinguistics in general was an eyerollercoaster.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

ulster says no

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

W. B. Yeats or gtfo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLlcvQg9i6c

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link

He's working those r's like no-one's business.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

Yeats barely sounds Irish to me - might be class, might be time he lived (had an old English teacher who pronounced “poem” like he did, with two syllables).

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo

I went to a language school in either Brazil or Argentina (iirc), a few years ago, where the teacher had studied in Belfast and was passing on a noticeable NI accent to all the kids.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

(xp) Sounds like someone trying to do a Scottish accent tbh.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

Ascendancy!

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

_every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo_


I went to a language school in either Brazil or Argentina (iirc), a few years ago, where the teacher had studied in Belfast and was passing on a noticeable NI accent to all the kids.


Have to post this child with his strong Falls Road accent:

Meet the Syrian primary school pupil so good at languages he's been acting as an interpreter for his classmates 🗣https://t.co/PNNlAv4sEA pic.twitter.com/K2fWhViEVG

— BBC News NI (@BBCNewsNI) May 26, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

The intro gives you a slightly better sense of Yeats's accent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2FT4_UUa4I

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

But I agree that it doesn't sound very Irish.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

omg, <3 xxp

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

Can we have the video now?

I voted against the Letwin amendment. Parliament now meets again Monday to debate the new deal. Will post a video over the weekend laying out my thinking.

— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) October 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

Mad props to Mohammed btw.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

Like right this sec xp

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

Yeats still sounds pretty Scottish to me.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

I know what he sounds like, he just doesn’t have a very representative accent.

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

Agree. I don't get this at all:

Yeats “had a very distinctive Irish country accent, from Sligo,” noted Patrick McAfee, a visitor earlier this month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/arts/design/20dwye.html

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHP1K7sWsAQgaJv?format=jpg&name=large
Oh no

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

lol yeats sounds way more irish than I would have expected. I grew up around a lot of people with similar sounding accents (very affected, galway).

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

Maybe it’s a class thing? But he has that sort of stilted sounding speech that makes it difficult to tell (for me anyway).

I thought Dev would sound like that, but he actually sounded like any auld lad.

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

lots of guys who hang around trad pubs and quote kavanagh have that accent regardless of class origins. I don't think there's a large enough residue of that kind of aristocracy to account for it, its pure fiction for the most part, but Yeats is of a very different class settlement than exists now.

plax (ico), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

gyac thank you for posting the video of that tremendous boy, I salute him

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

Ditto.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link

Think Rory Stewart might be bad, fellas

Well like others I was taken in by @RoryStewartUK, the fact that he apparently did not vote for the Letwin amend. shows his character. No scrutiny. He remained quiet over the last days, and now, he stabbed People in the back. Don‘t bother standing for London Mayor. You‘ll lose.

— Rabbit Lady #FBPE🕷🕷🕸🕷🕷🎪🎪🎪 Register to vote (@RabbitLady4) October 19, 2019



Really hilarious to see people rediscover the merit of judging someone by their voting record

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

Think Rory Stewart might be bad, fellas

Well like others I was taken in by @RoryStewartUK, the fact that he apparently did not vote for the Letwin amend. shows his character. No scrutiny. He remained quiet over the last days, and now, he stabbed People in the back. Don‘t bother standing for London Mayor. You‘ll lose.

— Rabbit Lady #FBPE🕷🕷🕸🕷🕷🎪🎪🎪 Register to vote (@RabbitLady4) October 19, 2019



Really hilarious to see people rediscover the merit of judging someone by their voting record

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

did you know that he walked across afghanistan and speaks dari tho

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

i know what the spiders mean and i guess by association the spiderweb, but what is the signification of the three circus tents?

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

jesus god the replies to that thread are beyond parody

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

circus tents are where clowns live, is my measured conclusion after reading that

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

i know what the spiders mean and i guess by association the spiderweb, but what is the signification of the three circus tents?


clown me once, shame on you
clown me twice, shame on me
clown me thrice, shame on Rory

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

I fear it may be a Big Tent.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link

oh fuck :(

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link

Rory is intents

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

A local councillor is so desperate for my vote he's been ringing me for days, turned up on the doorstep twice, local CLP secretary has been ringing me. I did tell them all I'm a f/t carer of two and rarely get spare time and don't want to spend any time in bullshit meetings unless it is in a pub. He must be short of numbers because he's got one of his runners to give me a lift to some meeting and back. lol didn't realise such responsibility came with party membership. Tbh I was all geared up to tell him to go fuck himself but he pleaded so hard I couldn't be so rude - the story of my life... alas.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

I've been engaged with these kind of arguments calz and they've done nothing to endear me to party ultras

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

xp must be some sort of vote on?

How angry are some unionists, you ask? Well, Jetedty Cromblyn isn’t looking so bad now:


Jeremy Corbyn, yes that Jeremy Corbyn has actually never advocated that which Boris just signed up to. That is a damning indictment of Boris.

— Christopher Stalford (@CStalfordMLA) October 19, 2019




Corbyn would at least get a 2nd referendum and remain likely winning and keeping all the UK together. You lot have shafted us and expect us to just take it.

— Horatio Nelson (@HoratioNelson0) October 19, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

thank god all those people online shamed him into going to Westminster today instead of fleeing to Liverpool like he truly wanted to

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

the unionists shd do a deeper-magic-from-before-the-dawn-of-time* move to unravel what they helped wreak vonc-wise in 1979

*dawn of time = my 19th birthday as you know

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

Jared O'Mara could have given Sir Alfred Broughton a few lessons on unselfish national interest voting etiquette :p

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

lol

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

Loooool “I won’t sign it so I hope the EU see my keyses behind my back too”

stet, Saturday, 19 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

I was not expecting this to be the thread where I learned that Groundskeeper Willie was a Yeats impersonation.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 October 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

all my threads are educational

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

Nothing in the latest tactical idiocy to cause alarm

The Benn Act letter is sent, these other reported letters legally inconsequential

Seems clever, and will impress the easily impressed, but nothing to worry about

— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) October 19, 2019

can’t pretend I know more

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

The extension request has just arrived. I will now start consulting EU leaders on how to react. #Brexit

— Donald Tusk (@eucopresident) October 19, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link


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