Not to encourage this practise but there’s a thread title in there
― YouGov to see it (wins), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
In the sense that she comes across as a self-hating Scot?
No I just hate that accent, you sometimes hear from Scots who have been living in England for a long time and have Anglified their vowel sounds accordingly, either intentionally or unintentionally ... you also hear it from straight-up wankers like Fraser Nelson.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
Michael Gove?
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
Well he is in the wanker camp, for sure.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
No I just hate that accent, you sometimes hear from Scots who have been living in England for a long time and have Anglified their vowel sounds accordingly, either intentionally or unintentionally
I'd wager such shifts are subconscious at least 95% of the time. My (Canadian) accent has changed slightly since I moved here, although I could never go full Orson Welles.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
I'm sure it isn't intentional in the vast majority of cases, I really do hope Kevin Gallacher doesn't pronounce the word 'now' that way deliberately, for instance. The problem of course is that English people (claim they) can't understand you so you're forced to tone the accent down just to get through a day with blowing a gasket every two minutes.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
It's a little hard going for North Americans because it's not an accent we're routinely exposed to but if I were a Scot living in England I'd never tone it down. They don't need a fucking interpreter.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
burnistoun_lift_sketch.mkv
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
ppl who understand what i'm talking abt can fuck off
― mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
Same but mostly that's not the accent
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
I work with a Swedish women who has a sort of Anglo-Swedish accent and I hate her accent too - I like her though! So maybe I just don't like accents that fall between two stools. I notice Bjork seems to have gone back to having a nice Icelandic accent having had a hideous hybrid accent for a long time.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
In my experience, European ESL teachers are generally beholden to the notion that BBC English is the sole correct variant, so their students follow suit.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
All accents are good
― YouGov to see it (wins), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
my younger kids are in an English language international section at their public French high school/middle school, where they take the regular courses in French and then have lit and history courses in English. their English-language teachers are Irish, Scots, and English. our kids are American and speak accordingly, but in order to get the highest marks in courses, and on the concours for the grands écoles, have to learn to speak BBC English (well, they call it Economist English).
hopefully after Brexit we'll all switch to Irish English, the nicest sounding version imo.
― L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
our kids are American and speak accordingly, but in order to get the highest marks in courses, and on the concours for the grands écoles, have to learn to speak BBC English
Sad. I remember discussing this with a Frenchwoman who had lived in London for a few years before moving back to Paris to teach ESL at the lycée level, and her overt contempt for non-BBC English and sociolinguistics in general was an eyerollercoaster.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
ulster says no
― mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
W. B. Yeats or gtfo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLlcvQg9i6c
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
He's working those r's like no-one's business.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
Yeats barely sounds Irish to me - might be class, might be time he lived (had an old English teacher who pronounced “poem” like he did, with two syllables).
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
I went to a language school in either Brazil or Argentina (iirc), a few years ago, where the teacher had studied in Belfast and was passing on a noticeable NI accent to all the kids.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
(xp) Sounds like someone trying to do a Scottish accent tbh.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
Ascendancy!
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
_every esl child should be taught to speak in the manner of ian paisley imo_I went to a language school in either Brazil or Argentina (iirc), a few years ago, where the teacher had studied in Belfast and was passing on a noticeable NI accent to all the kids.
Meet the Syrian primary school pupil so good at languages he's been acting as an interpreter for his classmates 🗣https://t.co/PNNlAv4sEA pic.twitter.com/K2fWhViEVG— BBC News NI (@BBCNewsNI) May 26, 2019
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
The intro gives you a slightly better sense of Yeats's accent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2FT4_UUa4I
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
But I agree that it doesn't sound very Irish.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
omg, <3 xxp
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
Can we have the video now?
I voted against the Letwin amendment. Parliament now meets again Monday to debate the new deal. Will post a video over the weekend laying out my thinking.— Rory Stewart (@RoryStewartUK) October 19, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
Mad props to Mohammed btw.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link
Like right this sec xp
Yeats still sounds pretty Scottish to me.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
I know what he sounds like, he just doesn’t have a very representative accent.
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link
Agree. I don't get this at all:
Yeats “had a very distinctive Irish country accent, from Sligo,” noted Patrick McAfee, a visitor earlier this month.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/arts/design/20dwye.html
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHP1K7sWsAQgaJv?format=jpg&name=large Oh no
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
lol yeats sounds way more irish than I would have expected. I grew up around a lot of people with similar sounding accents (very affected, galway).
― plax (ico), Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Maybe it’s a class thing? But he has that sort of stilted sounding speech that makes it difficult to tell (for me anyway).I thought Dev would sound like that, but he actually sounded like any auld lad.
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
lots of guys who hang around trad pubs and quote kavanagh have that accent regardless of class origins. I don't think there's a large enough residue of that kind of aristocracy to account for it, its pure fiction for the most part, but Yeats is of a very different class settlement than exists now.
― plax (ico), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
gyac thank you for posting the video of that tremendous boy, I salute him
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
Ditto.
― the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
Think Rory Stewart might be bad, fellas
Well like others I was taken in by @RoryStewartUK, the fact that he apparently did not vote for the Letwin amend. shows his character. No scrutiny. He remained quiet over the last days, and now, he stabbed People in the back. Don‘t bother standing for London Mayor. You‘ll lose.— Rabbit Lady #FBPE🕷🕷🕸🕷🕷🎪🎪🎪 Register to vote (@RabbitLady4) October 19, 2019
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
did you know that he walked across afghanistan and speaks dari tho
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link
i know what the spiders mean and i guess by association the spiderweb, but what is the signification of the three circus tents?
― mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
jesus god the replies to that thread are beyond parody
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
circus tents are where clowns live, is my measured conclusion after reading that
― mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
― gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
I fear it may be a Big Tent.
― Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
oh fuck :(
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link
Rory is intents
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
A local councillor is so desperate for my vote he's been ringing me for days, turned up on the doorstep twice, local CLP secretary has been ringing me. I did tell them all I'm a f/t carer of two and rarely get spare time and don't want to spend any time in bullshit meetings unless it is in a pub. He must be short of numbers because he's got one of his runners to give me a lift to some meeting and back. lol didn't realise such responsibility came with party membership. Tbh I was all geared up to tell him to go fuck himself but he pleaded so hard I couldn't be so rude - the story of my life... alas.
― calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link