PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Looks like Jared is off to vote. pic.twitter.com/4KVUWt7y5H

— David Cross (@CodaArchitects) October 19, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link

Good luck today dear peeps

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link

I THOUGHT CROBBEN WAS IN LIVERPOOL? PLZ CONFIRM THX.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link

Ken Clarke is on board with the deal.

I can’t see it not passing tbh.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

The government isn’t going to have the vote today if Letwin passes

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

Ken Clarke backs the deal. A blow to unfunny parody accounts which people inexplicably RT in huge numbers

— Henry Zeffman (@hzeffman) October 19, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

seeing as he commands the respect of *all* of parliament this is the final death blow to Letwin amendment

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

might be a bad omen that the ERG chair/brexit hardman found an escaped wallaby in his garden last night.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:32 (four years ago) link

And that England just humped the Wallabies in the Rugby World Cup, which of course Cuntface mentioned in the Commons.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

I'm not convinced that, even if the deal passes, it's going to translate to a Tory majority at the next election.

It might have been a mistake for Labour not to threaten to remove the whip from MPs who vote for the deal.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

I think they might've done it - or at least I have seen the leadership change the position after pressure from the grassroots - but I think Letwin has taken the pressure off this vote.

I really don't know whether people are telling lies to themselves over the Letwin == let the deal go through it's fine.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

(xp) Yes, this prompted a rare bust up between me and Comrade Alphabet earlier on, but I have zero confidence in these spineless cunts not to fold and hand this shitshow on a plate to the ERG and the Britannia Unchained ghouls.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Your cynicism has a solid base but I think it was more of a deal goes through == Lab are finished == David Mil is gonna get in that prompted me to do bad posting.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:07 (four years ago) link

aw in the midst of national disharmony one touching moment of rapprochement.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

Not quite. Someone, can't remember who, was speculating on the thought processes of those Labour MPs who are prepared to back the deal and I said it's probably 'deal goes through == Lab are finished == David Mil'.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

I suspect there are some galaxy brain Kinnock types who see backing the deal as shoring up their constituency votes AND dealing a lethal blow to Corbyn in the process.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

I don't really understand the machinations of today, no clue at all about what will transpire

I'm not convinced that, even if the deal passes, it's going to translate to a Tory majority at the next election.

I could see the idea that "I'm not saying I like the guy, but credit where its due, he gets things done alright" would work in Boris's favour, and that kind of stuff matters a lot more than is maybe given credit for.

anvil, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

waterloo station is febrile with a large group of docile people’s vote protestors and a handful of cheap-suited hoorays yelling and shouting “TWATS” at them.

plus women in hats going to the races.

all going on. hope my friend arrives soon so i can leave.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

D-Mili is probably doing more good right now than he ever would have done leading the Labour Party and I suspect he won't be coming back in any case.

The thinking is more 'Deal goes through = Labour are finished = its Kinnock time'. That's the level of delusion we're dealing with.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

No I don't think it usually matters. The question is ok all well and good you did this but what you are going to do going forward that matters more.

A passed deal may mean it's less of a Brexit election, so it becomes more about other domestic policies.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

Xp to anvil

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link

Was watching the Commons but the spectacle of snivelling purged Tories promising to be good boys and vote for the deal and now can we be allowed back in the Conservative Party please was nauseating me.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link

I am more than happy to believe that Gove's "This deal means we can leave with no deal in a year" indicates that he's yet again not really understood the backstop-like part of it, but I haven't seen any informed analysis either way?

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link

I'm going to go out for the day and not pay any attention to this. What time are they actually voting and what time will we know?

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

In response to a question about how he would appeal to remainers, he repeats that it is an opportunity for people who love Europe to move forward.

Wtf does this even mean.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

What shit, boring dreams you must have. pic.twitter.com/WywfJDjQx1

— Stay Puft Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) October 18, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

xp it means "you lost, get the fuck over it"

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

Matt it's expected we'll know by 2:45 or 3

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

No I don't think it usually matters. The question is ok all well and good you did this but what you are going to do going forward that matters more.

A passed deal may mean it's less of a Brexit election, so it becomes more about other domestic policies.

I think it does matter, but what you're saying is also true and likely to counter-balance that. Its a volatile electorate though, and a deal shakes things up again. Maybe depends on the atmosphere, Its sorta difficult to imagine a celebratory atmosphere post-deal. Can't really imagine Brexit street parties (not in November anyway, but even so)

anvil, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

ah the the good old traditional English community street party... erm never seen one in over forty years of living here, unless small groups of people chucking pint glasses at cars and screaming like angry confused apes when England shit out of another world cup counts.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link

Caroline Flint cheered to the rafters by Tory MPs, I think we know how she's voting.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

she's no Flinty Badman

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

Gove described as a big girl's blouse in the Commons. Other than that, nothing to report.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

I'd like to apologise for my lack of faith y/day

Breaking: I have just walked past the honourable member for Sheffield Hallam. He is on the estate.

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) October 19, 2019

(assuming he's voting against, ha ha argh)

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

yes some party members clubbed together to drive him down apparently

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

that's how highly they think of him.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

everyone having a good time itt?

https://i.imgur.com/q5ziOKq.jpg

ogmor, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

Gareth Ellner, 37, dressed up as a Brexit unicorn called ‘Sunlit uplands’. He said: “I like dressing up and I thought we have been promised the unicorn...” #PeopleVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/vEnvIti8kT

— Aamna Mohdin (@aamnamohdin) October 19, 2019



All still as it should be I see

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

(xxp) Of course they've already driven back to Sheffield and left him to make his own way back.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

A smashing time.

2xp

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

fuck you ken clarke

Ken Clarke, former Tory chancellor, home secretary and more, says what we have before us is “undoubtedly a bad deal” and worse than that proposed by Theresa May.

But now the choice is very real.

He says he’s worried that the purpose of the convoluted agreement over Ireland was so the rest of the UK could be taken out of the customs union straight away.

The Canada deal took nine years to put in place, says Clarke. But he says all along he has been determined to avoid a no-deal Brexit.

We should support this deal.

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

‘this deal fucking blows! let’s do it!’

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

oh noes, my charcuterie!


"It's going to wreck my charcuterie company, my community and everything I've ever stood for," says Rachel Hammond from Northumberland, whose brother Daniel plays the trumpet. "We need to stay in the EU and encourage people to engage more in politics. We need an informed vote." pic.twitter.com/CceL3L0DyH

— Mattha Busby (@matthabusby) October 19, 2019

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

xps furries against brexit

a welcome distraction from Sammy on Parlt live

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

Mad Sammy says the DUP will vote for the Letwin Amendment - hell hath no fury like a disgruntled Ulsterman,

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

... hints, rather than says.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

seems bad lads

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

dawn foster things it may lose........ am not so sure myself now

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

Just sit back, crack open a cold one with the boys, and wait for all this to blow over.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

yeah, been feeling sick about this all morning - i think it’s gonna pass

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

Getting a cup of tea and looking at this shit:

During the coalition we put out statements like this sometimes to try and kid ourselves that we’d got some kind of meaningful concession before voting in a way we felt wasn’t right. We weren’t fooling anyone, and neither are you...

— Tim Farron (@timfarron) October 18, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link


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