PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Just very openly admitting they pushed through austerity knowing the damage it would cause https://t.co/X7e25LvwtC

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) October 18, 2019

Tim Farron taking confession and admitting he and his party are a set of complete cunts

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link

that is a staggering thing to actually say out loud.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 19 October 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link

Here's another one. Labour MPs are going to give us not only Brexit but God knows how many years of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/18/labours-melanie-onn-declares-intention-to-vote-for-brexit-deal🕸🕸


i mean you can say this as much as you want:

It is utterly extraordinary that some Labour MPs believe this tripe spewed out by Number 10 is some sort of “legally binding” commitment to maintaining workers’ rights and environmental standards.

Not only is it ridiculously ambiguous, it doesn’t promise *anything* of the sort. pic.twitter.com/roKeziWYXR

— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) October 18, 2019



but it’s about having an *excuse* to vote for it, not its credibility, which any fule must see is zero.

more general lesson, take an alternative view to Tom D on politics at your peril (in this case on whether there are or are not the numbers for a deal). you to be vigilant with your cynicism towards politicians.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

Yes, there are echoes of the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 07:36 (four years ago) link

Just saw someone on Twitter outraged at a use of Super Saturday to refer to anything except the day that Team GB win six medals at the 2012 olympics.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 October 2019 08:32 (four years ago) link

“...we’ll leave the showdown in Central Lobby between Gareth Snell and Caroline Lucas for now to go over to Steve Baker on College Green. Chris - how’s things looking with the ERG?” #SuperSaturday pic.twitter.com/p5T8I9zlrL

— Jack Tindale (@JackTindale) October 19, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link

Just saw someone on Twitter outraged at a use of Super Saturday to refer to anything except the day that Team GB win six medals at the 2012 olympics.


lol. tho through my regular enforced exposure to sky’s super saturday/sunday football bombast, seeing it bleed into regular news coverage has been nauseating.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

exactly!

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

I just posted it in jest yesterday teatime, didn't think our most *respected* statist broadcaster would be crass enough to use it!

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHOhzBdXYAAp34B?format=jpg&name=900x900

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

Looks like Jared is off to vote. pic.twitter.com/4KVUWt7y5H

— David Cross (@CodaArchitects) October 19, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link

Good luck today dear peeps

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link

I THOUGHT CROBBEN WAS IN LIVERPOOL? PLZ CONFIRM THX.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link

Ken Clarke is on board with the deal.

I can’t see it not passing tbh.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

The government isn’t going to have the vote today if Letwin passes

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

Ken Clarke backs the deal. A blow to unfunny parody accounts which people inexplicably RT in huge numbers

— Henry Zeffman (@hzeffman) October 19, 2019

gyac, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link

seeing as he commands the respect of *all* of parliament this is the final death blow to Letwin amendment

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:28 (four years ago) link

might be a bad omen that the ERG chair/brexit hardman found an escaped wallaby in his garden last night.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:32 (four years ago) link

And that England just humped the Wallabies in the Rugby World Cup, which of course Cuntface mentioned in the Commons.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link

I'm not convinced that, even if the deal passes, it's going to translate to a Tory majority at the next election.

It might have been a mistake for Labour not to threaten to remove the whip from MPs who vote for the deal.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

I think they might've done it - or at least I have seen the leadership change the position after pressure from the grassroots - but I think Letwin has taken the pressure off this vote.

I really don't know whether people are telling lies to themselves over the Letwin == let the deal go through it's fine.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:03 (four years ago) link

(xp) Yes, this prompted a rare bust up between me and Comrade Alphabet earlier on, but I have zero confidence in these spineless cunts not to fold and hand this shitshow on a plate to the ERG and the Britannia Unchained ghouls.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Your cynicism has a solid base but I think it was more of a deal goes through == Lab are finished == David Mil is gonna get in that prompted me to do bad posting.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:07 (four years ago) link

aw in the midst of national disharmony one touching moment of rapprochement.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

Not quite. Someone, can't remember who, was speculating on the thought processes of those Labour MPs who are prepared to back the deal and I said it's probably 'deal goes through == Lab are finished == David Mil'.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

I suspect there are some galaxy brain Kinnock types who see backing the deal as shoring up their constituency votes AND dealing a lethal blow to Corbyn in the process.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

I don't really understand the machinations of today, no clue at all about what will transpire

I'm not convinced that, even if the deal passes, it's going to translate to a Tory majority at the next election.

I could see the idea that "I'm not saying I like the guy, but credit where its due, he gets things done alright" would work in Boris's favour, and that kind of stuff matters a lot more than is maybe given credit for.

anvil, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

waterloo station is febrile with a large group of docile people’s vote protestors and a handful of cheap-suited hoorays yelling and shouting “TWATS” at them.

plus women in hats going to the races.

all going on. hope my friend arrives soon so i can leave.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

D-Mili is probably doing more good right now than he ever would have done leading the Labour Party and I suspect he won't be coming back in any case.

The thinking is more 'Deal goes through = Labour are finished = its Kinnock time'. That's the level of delusion we're dealing with.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

No I don't think it usually matters. The question is ok all well and good you did this but what you are going to do going forward that matters more.

A passed deal may mean it's less of a Brexit election, so it becomes more about other domestic policies.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

Xp to anvil

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link

Was watching the Commons but the spectacle of snivelling purged Tories promising to be good boys and vote for the deal and now can we be allowed back in the Conservative Party please was nauseating me.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link

I am more than happy to believe that Gove's "This deal means we can leave with no deal in a year" indicates that he's yet again not really understood the backstop-like part of it, but I haven't seen any informed analysis either way?

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link

I'm going to go out for the day and not pay any attention to this. What time are they actually voting and what time will we know?

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

In response to a question about how he would appeal to remainers, he repeats that it is an opportunity for people who love Europe to move forward.

Wtf does this even mean.

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

What shit, boring dreams you must have. pic.twitter.com/WywfJDjQx1

— Stay Puft Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) October 18, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

xp it means "you lost, get the fuck over it"

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

Matt it's expected we'll know by 2:45 or 3

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

No I don't think it usually matters. The question is ok all well and good you did this but what you are going to do going forward that matters more.

A passed deal may mean it's less of a Brexit election, so it becomes more about other domestic policies.

I think it does matter, but what you're saying is also true and likely to counter-balance that. Its a volatile electorate though, and a deal shakes things up again. Maybe depends on the atmosphere, Its sorta difficult to imagine a celebratory atmosphere post-deal. Can't really imagine Brexit street parties (not in November anyway, but even so)

anvil, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

ah the the good old traditional English community street party... erm never seen one in over forty years of living here, unless small groups of people chucking pint glasses at cars and screaming like angry confused apes when England shit out of another world cup counts.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link

Caroline Flint cheered to the rafters by Tory MPs, I think we know how she's voting.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link

she's no Flinty Badman

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

Gove described as a big girl's blouse in the Commons. Other than that, nothing to report.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

I'd like to apologise for my lack of faith y/day

Breaking: I have just walked past the honourable member for Sheffield Hallam. He is on the estate.

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) October 19, 2019

(assuming he's voting against, ha ha argh)

a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

yes some party members clubbed together to drive him down apparently

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link

that's how highly they think of him.

calzino, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

everyone having a good time itt?

https://i.imgur.com/q5ziOKq.jpg

ogmor, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

Gareth Ellner, 37, dressed up as a Brexit unicorn called ‘Sunlit uplands’. He said: “I like dressing up and I thought we have been promised the unicorn...” #PeopleVoteMarch pic.twitter.com/vEnvIti8kT

— Aamna Mohdin (@aamnamohdin) October 19, 2019



All still as it should be I see

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

(xxp) Of course they've already driven back to Sheffield and left him to make his own way back.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins ÂŁ5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

A smashing time.

2xp

pomenitul, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

fuck you ken clarke

Ken Clarke, former Tory chancellor, home secretary and more, says what we have before us is “undoubtedly a bad deal” and worse than that proposed by Theresa May.

But now the choice is very real.

He says he’s worried that the purpose of the convoluted agreement over Ireland was so the rest of the UK could be taken out of the customs union straight away.

The Canada deal took nine years to put in place, says Clarke. But he says all along he has been determined to avoid a no-deal Brexit.

We should support this deal.

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link


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