The who is doing what on that s/s will change as well. Lab as well as Tories
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
@simonk_133 on various potential issues with his spreadsheet
Here are a few calls that seem to me right now to be most uncertain:- will any ERG vote no (atm I'm saying none)- size of Labour yes vote (the biggest unknown I think)- Preference of whipless anti-no deal Tories- Norman Lamb- Will Jared O'Mara turn up- Lab/ex-Lab Lexiters
― mark s, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
re: withdrawing the whip. on the one hand, it's possible they're still needed in the tent, for now. on the other hand, any opportunity to purge the cunts.
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link
Yeah definitely, but you can see Corbyn's rationale. It will be used against Labour but it's whether that stick or not.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link
yeah and it would almost be premature while the numbers are on this knife-edge. no point using the threat if it's counterproductive or ineffective, can always quietly get rid of them later
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
The truth is out. Michael Gove and Dominic Raab are telling Tory hardcore Brexiteers that the "deal" is a gateway to No Deal. pic.twitter.com/gh1RLa49jZ— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) October 18, 2019
― gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
welp, there it is
waverers can't say they weren't warned
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
what kind of consequences are there for the border if this is true?
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
No idea but it might be delayed anyway because of Letwinonly shit yourself if Letwin fails.Sarah Champion has come out in favour of the deal. Should have had whip withdrawn years ago for her scummy Sun article, but I’ll settle for deselection.
― gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link
i dunno but i have a feeling they will be... bad xp
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
not sure if the Letwin amendment helps anything but certainly not my heart/brain at this point
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
(xxp) She wasn't one of the signatories of the Kinnock Letter and didn't vote for May's deal. Great.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
i.e. not mentioned in the spreadsheet, so Boris is ahead now?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
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― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
Champion was on that letter, according to Simon's s/s
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
look i know what the answer to this is, but if there's a single Tory Remainer not rotten to the core with moral cowardice they know what they're voting for now
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
Oh right, didn't notice, still ahead now though?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
(xp)
Myth building about Jeremy CorbynA thread— Jon Worth (@jonworth) October 18, 2019
― gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
Well not all 18 have declared xps to tom
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
bitter lol at that jon worth thread, people are so fuckin weird about corbyn
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link
that's because this all Corbyn's fault, as leader of the opposition he shd've had A50 renounced years back
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
just put 'corbyn liverpool' into twitter and am now surely dead
― nashwan, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
good post, thx for sharing yr thoughts neil
If the rumours about Corbyn being in Liverpool tomorrow and missing the vote are true????....I'm speechless. But perhaps they are unfounded #StopBrexit— Neil Dickinson (@neil_dickinson) October 18, 2019
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link
The internet was a mistake.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
Merde-stirrer Macron now saying he doesn't think the EU will grant an extension. Juncker, Macron, Fred all desperate for Brexit to be over, no matter the consequences for the UK.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
Bad cop iirc.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
One of the kinder things said about Fred on this board.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
So who wants the deal to pass tomorrow?
I don't know if I do or not.
― paolo, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
Tbh almost everyone in Europe is fed up with the UK at this point.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
So who wants the deal to pass tomorrow?I don't know if I do or not.
― gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
Fuck no. We need catharsis
― imago, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
Just stickin' around to see the Benn Act kick in tbh. Lock him up! Lock him up!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link
Come on now, BJ gets a victory and ties us into his idea of brexit forever? that can all fuck the fuck off.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
when is the actual vote?
― Simon H., Friday, 18 October 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
Tomorrow.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
super saturday
― calzino, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link
Parliament sitting from 9.30-2 tomorrow btw
― gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
Understand Labour will support the Letwin amendment - which makes it likely to pass.Would force Johnson to request an extension tomorrow; and mean we won't get a clean, up-and-down vote on his deal.— Heather Stewart (@GuardianHeather) October 18, 2019
― stet, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
So what time will the vote be? I’m laid up with tendinitis but am working until 1pm (fit to work but not to demonstrate).
― coup de twat (suzy), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
A protestor dressed as Boris Johnson is now half way up the Big Ben scaffolding. Police screaming at him to come down.
It's all happening!
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
A protestor dressed as Boris Johnson is now half way up the Big Ben scaffolding. Police screaming at him to come down. pic.twitter.com/eJvk3ZFDJi— John Johnston (@johnjohnstonmi) October 18, 2019
it was beauty killed the slouching beast
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
have we considered the possibility that this might actually be boris
The protestor climbing up the Parliament scaffolding appears to have a bag with presumably a banner it in. pic.twitter.com/UmtJZPjZrQ— John Johnston (@johnjohnstonmi) October 18, 2019
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
Whoever it is I can't say I'm feeling much concern for them
― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
Fake Boris News.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
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I really don't think I'm the selfish one who can't think of the consequences for others at this point.
― Frederik B, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
Yes, you're really suffering Fred, I can tell.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
so... BoJo is really gonna pull this off? I can't believe it.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
What reaching the top of Big Ben? Who knows?
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
I mean, my view is pretty fuzzy from all the way over here, but...is this thing really likely to pass largely on the basis of those involved being a gaggle of fidgety adolescents who are just like soooo bored and want to get this stupid boring thing over with already gawd, ugh?
― Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link