PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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The who is doing what on that s/s will change as well. Lab as well as Tories

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

@simonk_133 on various potential issues with his spreadsheet

Here are a few calls that seem to me right now to be most uncertain:
- will any ERG vote no (atm I'm saying none)
- size of Labour yes vote (the biggest unknown I think)
- Preference of whipless anti-no deal Tories
- Norman Lamb
- Will Jared O'Mara turn up
- Lab/ex-Lab Lexiters

mark s, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link

re: withdrawing the whip. on the one hand, it's possible they're still needed in the tent, for now. on the other hand, any opportunity to purge the cunts.

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

Yeah definitely, but you can see Corbyn's rationale. It will be used against Labour but it's whether that stick or not.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

yeah and it would almost be premature while the numbers are on this knife-edge. no point using the threat if it's counterproductive or ineffective, can always quietly get rid of them later

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

The truth is out. Michael Gove and Dominic Raab are telling Tory hardcore Brexiteers that the "deal" is a gateway to No Deal. pic.twitter.com/gh1RLa49jZ

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) October 18, 2019

gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

welp, there it is

waverers can't say they weren't warned

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

what kind of consequences are there for the border if this is true?

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

No idea but it might be delayed anyway because of Letwin

only shit yourself if Letwin fails.

Sarah Champion has come out in favour of the deal. Should have had whip withdrawn years ago for her scummy Sun article, but I’ll settle for deselection.

gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

i dunno but i have a feeling they will be... bad xp

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

not sure if the Letwin amendment helps anything but certainly not my heart/brain at this point

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

(xxp) She wasn't one of the signatories of the Kinnock Letter and didn't vote for May's deal. Great.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

i.e. not mentioned in the spreadsheet, so Boris is ahead now?

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

Champion was on that letter, according to Simon's s/s

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

look i know what the answer to this is, but if there's a single Tory Remainer not rotten to the core with moral cowardice they know what they're voting for now

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

Oh right, didn't notice, still ahead now though?

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

(xp)

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

not sure if the Letwin amendment helps anything but certainly not my heart/brain at this point


if it’s passed Benn kicks in and Boris has to request an extension til January and the vote tomorrow isnt happening. In theory this allows more time for details to emerge about the deal and for pressure to build on people who are currently voting for it.

Greatly enjoyed this thread about Corbyn truthers:

Myth building about Jeremy Corbyn

A thread

— Jon Worth (@jonworth) October 18, 2019

gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

Well not all 18 have declared xps to tom

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

bitter lol at that jon worth thread, people are so fuckin weird about corbyn

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

that's because this all Corbyn's fault, as leader of the opposition he shd've had A50 renounced years back

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

just put 'corbyn liverpool' into twitter and am now surely dead

nashwan, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

good post, thx for sharing yr thoughts neil

If the rumours about Corbyn being in Liverpool tomorrow and missing the vote are true????....I'm speechless. But perhaps they are unfounded #StopBrexit

— Neil Dickinson (@neil_dickinson) October 18, 2019

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

The internet was a mistake.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

Merde-stirrer Macron now saying he doesn't think the EU will grant an extension. Juncker, Macron, Fred all desperate for Brexit to be over, no matter the consequences for the UK.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

Bad cop iirc.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

One of the kinder things said about Fred on this board.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

So who wants the deal to pass tomorrow?

I don't know if I do or not.

paolo, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

Tbh almost everyone in Europe is fed up with the UK at this point.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

So who wants the deal to pass tomorrow?

I don't know if I do or not.


It’s a bad deal & I hate the government so no

gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

Fuck no. We need catharsis

imago, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

Just stickin' around to see the Benn Act kick in tbh. Lock him up! Lock him up!

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

Come on now, BJ gets a victory and ties us into his idea of brexit forever? that can all fuck the fuck off.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

when is the actual vote?

Simon H., Friday, 18 October 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

Tomorrow.

pomenitul, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

super saturday

calzino, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

Parliament sitting from 9.30-2 tomorrow btw

gyac, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Understand Labour will support the Letwin amendment - which makes it likely to pass.
Would force Johnson to request an extension tomorrow; and mean we won't get a clean, up-and-down vote on his deal.

— Heather Stewart (@GuardianHeather) October 18, 2019

stet, Friday, 18 October 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

So what time will the vote be? I’m laid up with tendinitis but am working until 1pm (fit to work but not to demonstrate).

coup de twat (suzy), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

A protestor dressed as Boris Johnson is now half way up the Big Ben scaffolding. Police screaming at him to come down.

It's all happening!

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

A protestor dressed as Boris Johnson is now half way up the Big Ben scaffolding. Police screaming at him to come down. pic.twitter.com/eJvk3ZFDJi

— John Johnston (@johnjohnstonmi) October 18, 2019

it was beauty killed the slouching beast

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

have we considered the possibility that this might actually be boris

The protestor climbing up the Parliament scaffolding appears to have a bag with presumably a banner it in. pic.twitter.com/UmtJZPjZrQ

— John Johnston (@johnjohnstonmi) October 18, 2019

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

Whoever it is I can't say I'm feeling much concern for them

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

Fake Boris News.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

Merde-stirrer Macron now saying he doesn't think the EU will grant an extension. Juncker, Macron, Fred all desperate for Brexit to be over, no matter the consequences for the UK.

― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), 18. oktober 2019 16:13 (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I really don't think I'm the selfish one who can't think of the consequences for others at this point.

Frederik B, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

Yes, you're really suffering Fred, I can tell.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

so... BoJo is really gonna pull this off? I can't believe it.

Οὖτις, Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

What reaching the top of Big Ben? Who knows?

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

I mean, my view is pretty fuzzy from all the way over here, but...is this thing really likely to pass largely on the basis of those involved being a gaggle of fidgety adolescents who are just like soooo bored and want to get this stupid boring thing over with already gawd, ugh?

Go-Gurt Ops (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 October 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link


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