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The first thing we could do, of course, is pray for a miracle. Maybe the Democrats will nominate one of the five B’s or the K: Biden, Buttigieg, Booker, Bennet, Bullock or Klobuchar.

David....Brooks

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link

BERNIIIIIIEEEEEE

j., Friday, 18 October 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

So Beto is too liberal for David Brooks

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

he wants to take his ar-15s and tax his homophobic church wait a second isnt david brooks a Coastal Elite

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

brooks is also v v intimidated by robert "it's mr steal your girl" o'rourke ever meeting his second wife

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:48 (four years ago) link

i want a full list of people david brooks would prefer trump to

mookieproof, Friday, 18 October 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

Very cool of Brooksy to include his boss’ brother on that list

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 18 October 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

The Bullockmentum is unstoppable

JoeStork, Friday, 18 October 2019 03:27 (four years ago) link

Sandra Bullock is running for the Democratic nomination? How did I miss this development?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 October 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link

It happened while you were sleeping

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 10:21 (four years ago) link

'on of the 5 bs or the k' - see it's this kind of phrase-turning that has made david brooks so justly wealthy and respected in new york media circles

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 October 2019 10:30 (four years ago) link

what does David Brooks know about deez 2 B’s

blows with the wind donors (crüt), Friday, 18 October 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

Honestly, more conservatives need to say this. iirc exactly none of the “never trumpers” urged people to vote Clinton in 2016. Now they need to put their money where their mouth is, even if the candidate is Bernie himself

treeship., Friday, 18 October 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link

representing BK to the fullest

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

I love that the "K" isn't even Kamala.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 18 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

Davey will hold his nose and vote for that commie to her bones Warren

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/opinion/tipping.html

i'm just gonna store this to read at some celebratory moment like an expensive bottle of scotch, not even gonna click it, that would spoil it

j., Friday, 25 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

NB the headline on the homepage of nyt is "The Tipping System is Immoral".

not going to read that ever, ever in my life because the rage might harm me.

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

although can someone who has read it let me know if he manages to work in a distinction between middle-america and liberal coastal elites

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

USA should adopt the French system, which eliminates extra compensation for servers who are especially servile. They also regard restaurant and bar service jobs as being no less valuable and dignified than other skilled work.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

Wait what is the French system

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

Tip 20 percent when the meal is over $25 and 30 percent when it is under.

To combat implicit bias when tipping drivers and others, commit to a percentage for all rides and stick to it.


tbh i do this

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

20 percent across the board, just because it's easy to move the decimal and double

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

French laws dictate that a service charge must be included in all prices at restaurants and bars, so that the equivalent of a tip, aka a "gratuity" is included in the bill and is not gratuitous, nor dependent of the whim of the customer. In return, at least in places that have a stable and well-paid service staff, those staff often pride themselves on providing equally good service to everyone. They consider your leaving bits of money on the table for them in return for ordinary good service is a bit insulting to their position as professionals. Extraordinary service might merit a further 'tip', but it should be clearly extraordinary.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

if i tip 30% i'll never eat out

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

17.5% for me

get a saner job

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

30% seems a bit............. gratuitous

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

an expensive bottle of scotch

are you unaware of the Trump tariffs

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

French laws dictate

how is this better, or functionally different, from just paying waiters

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

alfred this is why i have to intoxicate myself with david brooks editorials instead

j., Friday, 25 October 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

30% on under $25 means you tip $6 for $20 of food which is yeah maybe a bit high but i would probably do 25%

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

how is this better, or functionally different, from just paying waiters

because it is mandated. ain't nothing in the world stops US restaurants from "just paying waiters" or dishwashers or cooks, but only a small percentage of them do. I'd say a system that requires decent pay is functionally different than just letting (capitalist) nature take its course.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

what other countries bar the US and France don't pay waiters

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

I think maybe you aren't grasping the essentials of what happens in France.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

the French, they are a funny race...

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:36 (four years ago) link

they have a different word for everything

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

although can someone who has read it let me know if he manages to work in a distinction between middle-america and liberal coastal elites

― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, October 25, 2019 1:54 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

From the article:

"A survey of 40 million Uber trips found that men tip more often than women and people in the middle of the country tip better than people on the coasts."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

Men tip their Uber drivers more often, but women are raped by their Uber drivers more often, so it's a wash.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

Anyway, Brooks is in fact right about this, 20% should be considered part of what the meal costs and people who brag about the public service they're doing by stiffing waiters who didn't smile enough or were too slow refilling their water deserve vehement condemnation

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

if you hate the service, tip 20% and never eat there again

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 25 October 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

someone lock this thread until monday

mookieproof, Friday, 25 October 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

never forget:

Waiters are 87% friendlier as they hand me the bill and I’m about to decide the tip amount than they are at any other point in the meal.

— David Brooks (@nytdavidbrooks) July 26, 2019

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 25 October 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

It’s almost like how you were 87% nicer to your wife before you started fucking your research assistant, you absolute shit monster

brownie, Friday, 25 October 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link

^one of the replies

brownie, Friday, 25 October 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

lmao

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

I think maybe you aren't grasping the essentials of what happens in France.

perhaps this is why I'm asking why it is superior to countries that just pay waiters

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 25 October 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

they do pay servers, but in addition they provide servers with guaranteed tips

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link

my partner is a server and gets stiffed by customers frequently (which actually costs her money because of the tip pay out to the kitchen)

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

I’ve been traveling pretty constantly since this impeachment thing got going. I’ve been to a bunch of blue states and a bunch of red states (including Kansas, Missouri, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Utah). In coastal blue states, impeachment comes up in conversation all the time. In red states, it never comes up; ask people in red states if they’ve been talking about it with their friends, they shrug and reply no, not really.

ت (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 31 October 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link

man of the motherfuckin people david brooks yall

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Thursday, 31 October 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link


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