into the great wide open gets love; i'm happy.
(also agree on mojo)
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
"Into the Great Wide Open" is sooo great, easily one of the best power pop records I've ever heard.
― cpl593H, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
wait what? The title track? For power pop it's rather sleepy.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
lol yeah there's uh not a lot of "power" in that record
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
No no, I meant the album. Mainly for "King's Highway", "Two Gunslingers", "All the wrong reasons", "Dark of the sun" (though I suppose the title track to a degree, too)
― cpl593H, Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
and "Out in the Cold"!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
wait i thought i hated power pop
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
that's my favorite petty album wtf my life is a lie
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 17 October 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I share the sentiment. This is like it's a power pop record made by accident.
I love Big Star but most of the power pop stuff I've heard sounds so defanged in comparison. To me, Petty eschews that languid sound and restores some edge to it.
― cpl593H, Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link
"power pop" possibly one of the most poorly defined subgenres ever
The Raspberries are awesome btw
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 October 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
power pop is extraordinarily well suited to the Spotify playlist formatnumero has a great oneBig Star is a power pop band in the same way Led Zeppelin is a early 70s hard rock band, of it but far above it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link
I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album. Well, here is the Dirty Knobs, which is Campbell and friends:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Cfsktanus
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 March 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link
what a horrible band name
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 March 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link
I think it's a good name!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 March 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link
It's a guitar nerd joke, but it's also a funny put-down.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 March 2020 23:00 (four years ago) link
too close to The Dirty Heads for my taste
― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Monday, 9 March 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
The actual chorus is weak. Should have cut it and just let the pre-chorus be the chorus.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 9 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album.
Was this around the time he started giving away songs to other people ("Ways To Be Wicked", "Boys Of Summer", "Heart Of The Matter", etc.)?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 9 March 2020 23:57 (four years ago) link
Much later, apparently. He offered "Boys of Summer" to Petty first, in fact, but after fiddling with it Petty reportedly passed. "Heart of the Matter" I assume was similar. Funny that that album also features a few songs written by Stan Lynch.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link
verse is basically warren zevon covering "raspberry beret."
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
"Runaway Train" written in the same mold, and Petty accepted it because he didn't want another "Boys of Summer" situation.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
"Heart of the Matter" is fucking terrible.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
runaway train is gorgeous
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link
yeah this is covered in the Warren Zanes Petty bio — kind of an interesting glimpse of how un-laid back Petty actually was!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link
He won't back down, man.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link
just read that Zanes bio...really great...so much I didn't know
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
man I miss Tom way more than I thought I would - a good bio of him sounds like a worthwhile read
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
yeah, i think the Zanes bio is pretty unflinching for an authorized book.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
"Runaway Train" written in the same mold, and Petty accepted it because he didn't want another "Boys of Summer" situation.― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:50 AM (one hour ago)
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:50 AM (one hour ago)
...but then it did (purportedly unintentionally lol*):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27_-AWZcZec
*lol because Campbell actually played on the studio track and didn't recognize his own composition until Stevie brought it up to him.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
The Zanes bio is essential. One of the best rock biographies I've ever read. Petty was unflinching in interviews and 100% hands-off.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link
it's got everything and Stephen Stills!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
I love "Oooh My Love."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
Petty was unflinching in interviews and 100% hands-off.
Tbf, he was this after an epic documentary that overlooked (at his request) a lot of bad shit, and after that conversations book, which did the same. Third time's a charm!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
more like Tom Pretty am I right (as in, pretty petty!!)
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
that Bogdo doc is a strange watch
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
yeah it was weirdly disjointed for such a long watch
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link
Wildflowers deluxe thingy is pretty fuckin magic. It’s crazy how even the outtakes are just so goddamn good, and the live songs sound SO great - lots of care taken in the curation, really impressed
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link
yeah, it's great. the outtakes are all pretty album ready imo
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
Like just about anyone with ears in the '80s, I liked a lot of Tom Petty, but I never really thought much of him (figuratively and literally) as a songwriter. That gradually changed over the years until I was able to recognize him as a great songwriter, but the rare one imo that never really made a definitively great album. Until this one. I remember really well the day I got it in the mail at the college paper in 1994 or whenever, putting it on, and thinking, instantly, for whatever reason, OK, this is the one that really finally clicks as a front-to-back classic for me. And years later I feel largely the same way. I'll give Rick Rubin this much credit: the guy (and his team) really know how to capture not just these skilled guys with warehouses full of vintage instruments, but the sound of these guys who *really know* how to play these vintage instruments the way they need to played. Just sounds so great.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
I actually think Rubin’s work with Johnny Cash is underrated.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 October 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link
Underrated!?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
Those records famously got a ton of acclaim and press after the clueless asshats at Mercury dropped Johnny.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link
The 70th birthday concert thing was v nice!Highlight was Benmont Tench & Mike Campbell playing a few songs together- Tench played & sang a rearranged stripped-down piano version of “American Girl” w Campbell accompanying on guitar & I just there stunned with tears pouring out of my eyesgod it was beautiful no clip on youtube yet but i’ll keep an eye out bc it was really something else
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 October 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link
it's on Twitch via AmazonMusic because 2020 but you can also view the whole thing through the homepage at tompetty.com
campbell and tench together is real magic and deeply cathartic.
of the covers, all are sweet and sincere, some are bad, some are good, some are too pro to be bad or good... and one is amos lee absolutely taking up permanent residence inside "room at the top"
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 25 October 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
yeah that was great
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 October 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
At minimum, the two-disc version is worth getting to anyone who simply likes this album. (I think it's very good, but it's not even my favorite Tom Petty album - there's four, maybe five others I like more.)
For starters, the mastering is great whether you spring for the hi-res FLAC's, CD or vinyl - they're all better than the standard CD. (FYI, supposedly if you buy the CD's direct from Petty's official website, you get the hi-res downloads for "free" though to be fair the list price is a little higher there.)
But yeah, that second disc of extras is pretty good. There's at least four tracks that should have made the album IMHO - "Hope You Never," "Leave Virginia Alone," "California," "Harry Green," maybe "Climb That Hill Blues" - and the rest are fine outtakes, they would've been good B-side material. I don't think it was a bad idea for Petty to boil down those 25 tracks to a single CD, but almost anything from the outtakes disc would've been preferable to "Hard on Me" or "House in the Woods."
The four-disc "deluxe" edition and the five-disc "super deluxe" edition are pretty good too. Anyone who LOVES this album should consider the "deluxe" edition, the third and fourth disc are programmed wonderfully. If I liked this album more, I would myself - disc three and especially the live renditions on disc four were a good listen. But there's only one demo from disc three that I'll probably come back to ("There Goes Angela" which I would've put on the album as-is - it sounds great even for a demo) and I'm fine with just the studio renditions going forward. The fifth disc on the super deluxe is probably for students and die-hards, and I don't mean that as a put-down, that's just the nature of alternates and rejected versions left behind and this case is no different.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link
Heard "Leave Virginia Alone," and while in some ways it's kind of boilerplate (down to its Bob Seger vibe), but it sounded great.
This is his stoner record, right? The peak of his legendary pot smoking, right before his heroin addiction kicked in?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link
Rod Stewart covered LVA the following year.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link
Four of the outtakes surfaced basically as-is on She's The One, including that wonderful Beach Boys homage "Hung Up And Overdue" (Carl Wilson!)
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
never noticed how much "Time to Move On" is debt to the sound of Tunnel of Love era Springsteen and proto War on Drugs
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link