PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Phew so glad to move onto other priorities now.

stet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link

RIPDUP?

nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link

No, they're on board with it.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link

Holy shit here we go

They vote it down = election time
Cowards and wankers combine to get it thru = jump on Barmston drain time

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link

Dup have just up middle fingered the deal

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

Hold up. DUP say their statement from this morning (that "gaps remain") still stands!

— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) October 17, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link

When you don't even have the guts to admit you've been in the Labour Party your whole life but you hate socialism

Any evidence of this in her voting record? Honest question. She doesn't like Corbyn for sure, but I don't think that's the same thing. Getting rid of MPs out who have increased turnout and have huge majorities (even if we are talking about Liverpool)doesn't seem like an election winning tactic to me. Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

Basically, switch your phones off for a couple of hours xp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

It's not getting through Parliament without the DUP and I don't think there are enough Labour MPs willing to risk losing the whip for something that's obviously DOA.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:46 (four years ago) link

Great news for Ellman's constituents at the new hard border.

nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

thrilled to be alive three years after the referendum in a country hurtling towards a vitally important deadline and we still haven't got a fucking clue what's going on

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link

Sub-normals? That's nice.


still

The decision, which ends the routine of Britons being offered a copy of the broadsheet when they buy a drink at the high-street newsagent chain, was confirmed as Telegraph Media Group revealed pre-tax profits fell 94% from £14.3m to £900,000 last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/oct/15/daily-telegraph-drops-bottled-water-promo-wh-smith-pre-tax-profits-fall

*94%*

Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

Junckers and Johnson have both announced it as a done deal - but it seems they did so without telling Sammy Wilson first.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

This is a good point but yeah only a bunch Kinnocks can get this deal through:

Counterintuitive though it may seem, Johnson pissing away his majority through expulsions means the DUP have less leverage over Brexit than they did. Johnson needs to find votes from across the house.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) October 17, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:51 (four years ago) link

ah, different telegraph. *nevertheless*

and xyz otm about switching phone off for a couple of hours. (should have done it for three years.)

still hard to see how this doesn’t breach DUP and crucially DUP supporters’ red lines, and without them hard to see where the numbers come from.

Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

Seems like the deal is not really meant to be passed but is to be a election campaign plank less toxic than “vote for us for no deal”

stet, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:53 (four years ago) link

I expect all the purged Tories who haven't joined other parties to vote for it, that'll bump the numbers up.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link

"Calling them pieces of shit seems, erm, unnecessary."

so you are saying people can't express contempt for duplicitous right wing Labour politicians that use Guido Fawkes to slur anyone on the left, and yes her voting record is wretched. And I don't really care what you think after reading your indecipherable nonsense on YouGov yesterday.

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

I expect all the purged Tories who haven't joined other parties to vote for it, that'll bump the numbers up.

Yeah they'll vote it and swiftly be allowed back in. Meanwhile Labour lose a few more like Ellman.

nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link

gotta purge 'em all

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:01 (four years ago) link

This is a summary of her voting record

Louise Ellman thought being a Labour MP meant voting for at least two bloody, pointless wars, voting to create privately run prisons for migrants, voting for economically illiterate PFI schemes, voting for Atos to supervise the disabled . She may have poor judgement.

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) October 16, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link

she seems nice

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link

cracking lass if you are a billionaire who owns one of the PFI behemoths, not so good if you are disabled or poor.

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link

Suggestion is the EU will help Boris out by saying it's this deal or no deal. Helping out their fellow right wing arsehole there.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:07 (four years ago) link

look lads as Nelson Muntz once pointed out you've gotta nuke something

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

except parliament has legislated to oblige BJ to avoid no deal so the EU can fuck off, unless they’re saying they won’t extend

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

Didn't they say that about the May deal as well?

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

Probably!

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:12 (four years ago) link

Consistently

Kinda painful to admit that the clown Johnson was in some small way right

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

Lol BBC News using their best wicked witch picture of Arlene

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

I note with a sad roll of my eyes that Hard Left Brexiteer Trot Crumbum has described this new deal as "shit"

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

How many hours/wads of cash before the DUP caves?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link

Ooh Jo Swindon just described the deal as "fucking shit"

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link

Is it established this is May's deal only worse for UK or at least NI? It gets Johnson hailed as statecraft legend by the media sewer for a while regardless.

nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:28 (four years ago) link

surely there's no way he'll agree to Referendum 2: Gammon Boogaloo just to get the deal thru?

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

Emily Bishop reacts to news that her nephew Spider was the ring leader of this morning’s disruption at Canning Town’ pic.twitter.com/TpXKIY3Ddw

— Phil Blundell (@PhilBlundell) October 17, 2019

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:37 (four years ago) link

lol

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link

Good thread with insights into XR:

The last time I did a thread about an XR action in my city being terrible for disabled people, I got a lot of abuse, but also several nice people telling me in good faith to try engaging with them.

— M *honk* (@pancake_puns) October 17, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link

And I don't really care what you think after reading your indecipherable nonsense on YouGov yesterday.

Well you could have told me this yesterday instead of letting me go on and on. Jeez.

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

How many hours/wads of cash before the DUP caves?


don’t think that’s on the table. cash can’t be represented as a win to their voters, who would go to other unionist parties. unionism can’t be breached here, unless they can find a way on VAT and customs arrangements which allows the proposed border controls.

Fizzles, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link

The Tories throwing the DUP under a bus after using them to stay in office since the election is fucking funny, I must admit.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link

Of course.

Nigel Farage backs extension and a general election over PM’s deal

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) October 17, 2019

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 17 October 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link

haha some energy that

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

lol at nigel's butthurt

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link

he's banging on about fishing rights (fuck off fishermen - you fucked yourselves) and then accusing boris of potentially committing that worst possible crime in polite brexiter society .. surrender!

calzino, Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:18 (four years ago) link

won't be saying which seat he will contest in the GE he wants tho - log off coward

nashwan, Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:19 (four years ago) link

Boris's seat or gtf.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

A lot of People's Vote tears.

Securing a compromise Brexit deal is a major negotiating achievement for Boris Johnson. I congratulate him. I seem to remember him saying the Benn Act would stop the EU making the necessary concessions. He was wrong about that. In fact it helped bring Brexiteers to their senses.

— Nick Boles MP (@NickBoles) October 17, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link

this guy made one of the most bafflingly ignorant documentaries (for a supposedly highly educated person)... so am not surprised by this

God, I miss the days when I didn't know who the DUP were and what they stood for

— Sathnam Sanghera (@Sathnam) October 17, 2019

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link

ahh, those sunny uplands where i was more stupid and more happy, how i wish i could return

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 October 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link


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