The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements.
this isnt much different from things that guys like premier or large professor have said over the years, tbf.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 18 June 2009 08:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"jay stay paid" just isn't very good, is it?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
only song I felt to be worthy of downloading after listening to the clips was 24K w/Havoc and Raekwon, and even that is just ok.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't believe patrin gave it 8.1
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
he gave mos def an 8.0
im trying to start my own cult of quik
― zzz (deej), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements."
these people must not go to Pittsburgh.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Jay Stay Paid is awesome and totally worthy of an 8.0
― king of ^ flowers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Mos Def not so much.
― king of ^ flowers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
For me, I don't care for the majority of his own work, but I like most of the stuff he influenced.
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark
as someone who's been pretty unimpressed with underground rap for most of the past decade, i'm starting to feel that a serious potential source of light on the horizon lies in the dilla aping realm. it goes deeper than flying lotus or black milk, and i'm not even talking shameless dilla jacking per se, but just that sense of making weird beats with loads of atmosphere and an offbeat lurch, and that sense of experimentation away from cleaner sounding drums or samples.
anyways, i'm anticipating a lot of people not liking this but it's a trend i'm v interested in at the moment but know way too little about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFRsJOWRSYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N63b2Tk-A&feature=related(this one's actually a flying lotus production)
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 March 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
start hereitt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b
― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
actually, start here, and then go hereThe Sa Ra Creative Partners Thread, finally...
*there*
― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Cult is dud, Jay D is pretty classic (though a bit of a mixed bag). This is one of those things that I'm grateful that my brother was super into backpack shit in SE Michigan, so he knew Jay D (mostly through the Subterraneous crew and Slum Village folks), and I got to meet him a couple of times. He was a pretty chill guy, but "Dilla Changed My Life"? Not so much.
― 'Bout time to change the display name to something clever (I eat cannibals), Friday, 5 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i've read and loved the pretentious rn'b thread, but i think this is something at least slightly different; i'm really thinking hip hop and slow head-nod instrumental hip hop. i read a rap review a while ago where the writer said something to the extent of "the production is refreshing in an era where every undie rap producer just recycles old dilla beats" and i thought 'hey i wouldn't mind it if everyone sounded like that.' thing is i just haven't heard enough it, and so far am not convinced that so much of it exists.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
ok yes sa-ra is exactly what i was talking about, thank you.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZZZ_SG-boE
― PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
that was pretty great
― jaxon, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Dilla's Donuts began simply enough, in summer 2005, as an idea to turn a particularly good demo beat tape into a full-length release. We think we can safely say it has since became a classic hip-hop album, one of the defining works of the artist's life. This box set includes the album on seven 45s and a bonus 45 with "Signs" from the long out-of-print Donuts 'Fan Club 45' b/w DOOM & Ghostface's "Sniper Elite & Murder Goons" - two tracks over Donuts beats which were recorded in late 2005 prior to the original release of the album. These two tracks were released digitally in 2008, but have never before appeared on vinyl. Side D contains the "Donuts Outro/Intro" appearing as an interlude at the beginning of "The Diff'rence" which dates back to the first, original sequence of the album.
groan
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
I love Donuts, classic chillwave
― brimstead, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
classic
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
This box set includes the album on seven 45s
why do they do this? who buys these?
― flopson, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
soulstrut is tumbleweeds right now b/c the entire board is running to the record store
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
i dont know but apparently already sold out pretty much everywhere already, though i suppose at $40 it works out to only $5/disc so i guess not total robbery
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I was just going to do a donuts poll yesterday
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
the cult is 'annoying' but more annoying is being broke, having ants in my kitchen & not getting a call back from a chick i like
sometimes ppl around here are way too subculturally butthurtwahhh nerds are corny
― ridin down the yellow brick road in the yellow 6-4 (deej), Monday, March 16, 2009 5:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
all of those problems have been solved but the dilla cult still exists
mea culpa
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
this really is an amazing time capsule thread, can't believe velko posted in it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
tbh madlib changed my life
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 @jrocc that beat isn't from a 1 thru 5 batch, it's from "another batch" 1998.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats @jrocc I don't really give a shit to honest.
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 @jrocc to each his own.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats No it's not to each his own. That's the problem. There are facts to this and dudes be freestyling like they know what it is.
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 i know, that's my point. I'm a stickler for facts and details.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats What facts? Did you get a beat tape from Dilla?
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 are you confusing me with someone you don't know?
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 and why attack me for correcting an obvious mistake? who doesn't know that's 98?
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47More and more annoyed by you so called "Dilla Heads" You really don't have a fuckin clue which I did B47 Breaks in the 1st place.
― Andy K, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
ha awesome
― The Reverend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
wow this thread all over the place
anyways would have been 45 today rip beat maker
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
this was very touchinghttps://www.instagram.com/tv/CZebNF9hQvt/?utm_medium=copy_link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link
There's a new book too:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/01/arts/music/j-dilla-time-book.html
Charnas also clarifies the story around “Donuts,” an instrumental album that Stones Throw Records released right before Dilla’s death that has become a key entry point for new generations of fans. It’s been said that Dilla recorded “Donuts” in the hospital, embedding messages for loved ones in his compositions as the end approached. In reality, “Donuts” was born from one of the many beat tapes he had made. It was largely edited and extended by Jeff Jank, who worked at Stones Throw, and completed months before Dilla died.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
Just picked up the book yesterday, though I haven't started it. Looks fantastic and there seem to be a lot of beat diagrams sprinkled throughout. Can't wait to dig in, though I've already got two fellow ilxors books on the "next to read" pile first.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
Charnas' book was really good, I appreciated the mix of biography and deeper dive into how he put the beats together.
Listening to the Welcome 2 Detroit Instrumentals this morning and it sounds really good.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
Just starting Dilla Time now, hells of excited to immerse myself in it.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
Yeah, some of the music theory stuff can be a little "extra" but Charnas is a gripping and thorough storyteller. Book is great.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
I'd like to read it, but I feel like if I ever hear read anyone going on about Dilla's unquantized drum programming feel, it will be too soon.
I think even Questlove, who was of course a primary evangelist, said recently that the way Dilla constructed musical parts out of micro-sampling (single notes, tiny sounds) has been overlooked compared to the drums stuff.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
― zzz (deej), Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:29 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
this worked kinda
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
I need to read the charnas book
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link