the show certainly implied the fuck out of it! either way it suggests rhea as a toy for logan to bat around and that's not something the show needs more of.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
idk, the show intentionally kept that ambiguous. i think that it's an interesting part of the show's dna to keep some important details lingering under the surface, but not explicit. it's clear that the roy kids suffered some serious emotional (and probably physical?) abuse at the hands of both parents, but the show and the characters never quite spell out exactly what happened (aside from jokey things about roman enjoying getting locked up in a cage).
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
well logan does hit his grown son so that's a hint
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
Roman's sincere "are you ok?" to Kendall after the announcement felt rooted in that too
― Number None, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
I kind of stopped counting, but how many times in the show does it seem like Logan is sundowning? The closet shoe pissing happens a couple times, he seems confused multiple times in later evening scenes or when jet lagged, and seems to be making more choices midday on purpose
― mh, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
yeah i feel like a lot of those indicators were early season 1 -- and i at the time remember thinking it was gonna be a different arc & type of plot that it ultimately ended up being
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 17 October 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
i think brian cox said in that interview originally they were going to kill off logan at the end of s1
― na (NA), Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
Interesting article here that talks about the Logan mastermind theory:
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/10/16/20915933/succession-season-2-finale-twist-logan-kendall-this-is-not-for-tears
And has an incidental paragraph that explains the utility of Holly Hunter’s character
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 October 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
i think the show intentionally leaves it in the no-mans-land between 'logan hatched a plot' & 'logan smiled for some quotidian reason'; logan was obviously proud, he was obviously pleased w the outcome on at least one level, he hoped it would happen but knew kendall had to figure it out for himself...not sure how *conscious* it was of a "plot" by him, the word "plot" implies that he was really trying to set it in motion when i think the truth is probably somewhere closer to 'intuited it could happen'
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 18 October 2019 06:51 (four years ago) link
'created the possibility for it to happen if his son was who he hoped he was'
agreed on all counts
― Number None, Friday, 18 October 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link
right, but he's also been trying in his own nasty way to inspire kendall to be a killer his whole life. it wasn't part of a calculated plan, just logan doing what he always does.
― flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link
Kendall Roy what's on your awesome headphones while you plan to kill you father
https://robbreportedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/3.jpg
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
north american scum!
― thicc elizabeth (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
just finished this last night after marathoning all weekend . Great fucking show!!!
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
uh yeah he was playing that when he took them off xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
i know, was mostly commenting that it was a hilariously appropriate choice
― thicc elizabeth (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
i think he's listening to 'a christmas fucking miracle' by run the jewels
― thicc elizabeth (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
Tom eating Logan's chicken was awesome btw
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
fuck so many amazing scenes in this show though
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
and yet i feel like hardly anyone knows about it
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
it's awfully popular!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link
i'm sure i just slept on it myself but no one i know irl watches it
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
It's extremely difficult to get people irl to watch it ime
― Number None, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
my mom binged the first season in two days
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 24 October 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses)
Yeah to me it seems to have penetrated the collective cultural consciousness with startling speed - people irl are throwing around the character names without first referencing the show they're from already.
― chap, Thursday, 24 October 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link
this show is so good
― ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
so many hard to watch scenes tho.
kendall's rap :s
― ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
at least once a week i find myself morosely thinking "L to the OG...."
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
haha.
finished season 2 last night. wow.
― ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
“look it’s a succession”- me pointing to a helicopter flying over nyc— Catherine Cohen (@catcohen) October 18, 2019
tru
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link
i was in the financial district of my city last week during the day on friday and i was seeing the dudes in their vests and stuff and just feeling like i was surrounded by succession people
― ت (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
saw that James Murdoch, of the News Corp Murdochs, is supporting Buttigieg and I had a big Succession moment
― mh, Monday, 4 November 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
kendall says he's voting buttigieg, actually votes for trump
― Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link
This show is incredible. Wasn’t even aware of its existence until two weeks ago. I’m not deeply clued into the TV landscape, but are people watching this? Visibility seems shamefully out of proportion to the quality of it.
That weekend retreat at the Pierce compound was maybe one of the best episodes of television I’ve seen. Penultimate Season 2 ep in DC, particularly Shiv talking the woman out of testifying, was some gut-level primal horror.
Really impressed by the entire execution of this. Doing a lot of things and doing them all very well.
― circa1916, Friday, 8 November 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
I haven’t read this read this thread yet, watching the final season 2 ep now.
― circa1916, Friday, 8 November 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link
Finished S2 yesterday : great season, even better than S1, and that final ep was amazing.so many great moments over the season but a few higlights come to mind : the Pierce/Roy families interactions, Roman and the hostages situation, Ken's rap, Ken's speech during the Senate hearing, Shiv's conversation with the witness...And Tom & Greg are such a great comedy duo !I agree that the whole Rhea situation was not satisfying (how it started, how she got so fast to the top, how she left...).Marcia's "conversation" with her was great though.Also, some of Logan's decisions over the season didn't seem very logical/convincing considering his charachter.Sad to have to wait for such a long time until the next season...
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link
Rhea was qualified to become the CEO and could easily have been given the job in the timeframe of the series (there's like a month between each episode maybe?) And totally within her rights to walk away at the clusterfuck she'd inherited.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link
did she fuck Logan though ?
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
brian cox says no, the characters shiv and roman say yes.
― kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
he urinated on her shoes
― mh, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
. I’m not deeply clued into the TV landscape, but are people watching this?
Everyone who works in media is.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
SOLD.
WeWork, the TV series, based on WeWork, the book*, written by me and @maureenmfarrell *Forthcoming!https://t.co/wOUP8fZHoi— Eliot Brown (@eliotwb) December 11, 2019
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
heh yeah let's do this
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
as long as neumann has no input and gets no money, i'm in
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
Brian Cox. Cookie Monster. Two titans finally meet to discuss business....and cookies. #Sesame50 pic.twitter.com/l6zOiK6iPP— Mashable (@mashable) November 15, 2019
― mh, Thursday, 12 December 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link
i mean it's on hbo why not use the music
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 December 2019 02:40 (four years ago) link
I finally got around to watching this show. holy fuck, so good.
The idea that anyone thinks Logan and Kendall colluded in thge last episode is absurd for all the reasons that vox article lays out; people are ruined by other TV shows I guess. This show is more like Mad Men than Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad.
The masterstroke of this show is that it can make me feel sympathy for completely loathsome people. Fuck, even Tom is sympathetic in that last episode. I'm quite glad Kendall did what he did though. He's the only person I'm rooting for and the only person who probably actually has a soul.
― akm, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
https://ew.com/tv/2019/12/11/succession-cast-entertainers-of-the-year/
CULKIN: There are some funny fan theories [about the finale]. I’ve been taking general [business] meetings and finding out halfway through, “Oh, the only reason why you wanted to take this meeting is so you can geek out about the show and give me your fan theory.” I had this one meeting where the guy had friends who had a fan theory that he thought was bulls—. When he told me [their theory], I said, “Yeah, that’s bulls—.” He goes, “Do you mind if I take a video of you saying it’s bulls—?” So I took a video of me saying it’s bulls—, and when I left I was like, “Oh, I feel like such a whore.” His theory was that all the kids were in on Kendall’s decision.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:51 (four years ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:
ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31
If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link