What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

jaymc, I think it largely comes down to who you follow.

I haven't seen anyone complaining about these endorsements, but I've seen a ton of people saying there's someone complaining about them.

Here's one (which is obviously just one data point):

Sad to hear that most of the squad will be endorsing fucking Bernie. I hope Ayanna Pressley doesn't go in on this.

— Laura Bogart (@LDBogart) October 16, 2019

It's worth nothing once again that the majority of Bernie backers don't "hate" Warren.

FWIW, I don't hate Bernie, either. I'd be happy if he got the nomination.

yeah if Warren gets the nom I'm sure they'll be rallying hard behind her

Anyway, am I wrong that the Squad has a broader base of support than Bernie does? Or are they simply too "divisive" for their endorsement to have a positive effect for anyone other than Bernie?

jaymc i don't think you're wrong, at least not anecdotally. one of the biggest in-the-tank-for-hillary people i know is a huge aoc fan

I think it will have a positive effect, but maybe not enough to give him the boost he needs to win this thing.

I suspect the number of Bernard Brothers who will be pissed if Warren gets the nom is roughly the same as the number of Squad fans who are mad that they endorsed Bernie.

I have no basis for this, but it seems like a good thing to say.

They have a big reach and base of support yes, but agreed, obviously not enough to swing anything (ultimately, its where the Biden votes go once he's out thats more important)

Lol, Biden's imminent exit from the race is the silliest point that keeps popping up on these threads.

Biden's Imminent Exit has never popped up once on any of these threads!

Not true, although this may be the first time in the AOC thread

But it isn't on this thread either!

Oh, I see, you're just being pedantic.

I don't mean to be! I think there is an important distinction between "Biden will eventually drop out" and "Biden will be dropping out imminently"

For the record, i don't think Biden is going anywhere soon. Its obviously an opinion and I may be wrong, but I don't consider the distinction between the two to be pedantry, as I believe one instance to be likely and the other instance to be implausible

Not sure what's so likely about it at all though. I suspect that Biden will only drop if it is down to him and one other candidate, and it becomes clear he can't win. Yes, it's possible he'll crash and burn sooner, but I wouldn't bank on it.

Biden is going to win

Not sure what's so likely about it at all though. I suspect that Biden will only drop if it is down to him and one other candidate, and it becomes clear he can't win. Yes, it's possible he'll crash and burn sooner, but I wouldn't bank on it.

Well that may be true of course. I think his numbers are largely predicated on people thinking other people like him and that rests on him being a frontrunner, once he is no longer a frontrunner that edifice crumbles and his numbers tank.

But in terms of the thread(s) its a more general sense of relative frustration at being misunderstood, and thinking "am I really that bad at saying what I mean?". Has happened a few time today, but yes on this one in retrospect I should have used the word 'eventually' to try reduce ambiguity!

a biden win is a trump win

Oh we're onto the equations part of the thread now

have Biden's numbers ever gone up at any point in the last few months? seems like the more he does the less people actually like him

Biden's numbers belong in the Dem primary thread!

or the Biden thread

We should not be discussing Biden¨s numbers on this thread, but if we ARE discussing Biden's numbers, then there is a 538 article about them, because of course there is: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/elizabeth-warren-rise-hasnt-come-at-joe-biden-expense/

"don't reply all guys!"

/Replyall

she's good

AOC kind of tying Zuckerberg in knots here on political ads.

Q: Can I run ads telling voters the wrong election date?
Z: No.
Q: So you are fact-checking politics ads?
Z: For specific things.
Q: Can I run ads in GOP primaries saying they backed my Green New Deal?
Z: I don't know.

— Pete Schroeder (@peteschroeder) October 23, 2019

excellent

still completely befuddled. pic.twitter.com/NZTkikiOs4

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) October 23, 2019

I get the sense this is more useful as a strand of the argument that Facebook is a malign force that needs to be broken up than evidence that it can / should be reformed with a stronger commitment to fact-checking. Putting such an appalling corporation in charge of filtering news for perceived accuracy without addressing the underlying power it has would be a terrible misstep.

The antitrust legislation Warren is promising is the best part of her platform and her public analysis of tech despotism is something the squad can easily get behind.

Love that Zuckerberg is getting eaten alive from a girl who went to BU and ended up working in a bar for years in this clip. Her triumph over millennial disappointment is definitely a huge part of her appeal.

Crikey - AOC grilled Zuckerberg? What a tremendous confrontation!

strong Tom Wamsgans vibes when Zuck said "I think lying is bad"

Zuckerberg probably can cite a higher IQ than AOC, but AOC has the advantage on him, because of her superior clarity about how intelligence should be used and what for.

On what are you basing this opinion

ahahahah yesss

Facebook just approved this ad featuring @LindseyGrahamSC endorsing the Green New Deal: pic.twitter.com/X4ETKAQavL

— Adriel Hampton 🦇 (@adrielhampton) October 25, 2019

brilliant

I think Zuck’s IQ is just mildly above average. His fortune is an utter accident.

he was a psych major who made a hot or not app that had decent GUI, this checks out

Lol come on

no YOU come on

are you dudes arguing over a phony measure of intelligence concerning a mirthless sociopath?

I always feel like the smartest thing zuckerberg ever did was marry an asian american pediatrician.

It wasn't ruthlessly shanking everyone he could en route to being a billionaire?

are you dudes arguing over a phony measure of intelligence concerning a mirthless sociopath?

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 25, 2019 12:47 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not in earnest!! iq is bullshit i just like dunking on zuck (zunking if u will)

his wife gives him the appearance of humanity. xpost

hopefully he knows to keep his dick pics to polaroid formats.

mark zuckerberg's dick is so huge and girthy that it requires a wide panorama format, is what i heard

ok what the hell Karl

i'm not going to actually FP you, but I'm going to just post "FP"