PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Isn't Good Friday a bigger deal for Protestants than it is for Catholics?

I'm asking because Good Friday is a statutory holiday in Canada everywhere except in ex-Catholic Quebec, which privileges Easter Monday.

Is it just because it has the word Good in? Even though the "good" in Good Friday is a euphemism for Actually Pretty Bad Thanks.

Got to have different names for everything though, use the names other people use to mean only two thirds of the thing, etc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHAG4msX4AE9ISb?format=jpg&name=medium
lol

Good Friday was, until very recently, one of the two days in the whole year when pubs would close in Ireland - the other being Christmas Day.

According to Wikipedia, Good Friday is a bank rather than a public holiday in Ireland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

I'm not sure I grasp the distinction, though. Bank holidays are exotic to me.

Closing pubs is indefensible, no matter the excuse given.

otm

Something something Lent imo - Easter Monday is a bank holiday. Idk how Protestants see Easter but it is the most important feast in Catholicism & we also have Lent leading up to it as well.

Wikipedia says Easter Monday is a public holiday. Once again, I don't get how that differs from a bank holiday but whatevs.

Depends on the Church but I'm sure the DUP are all of joyless grim-faced Presbyterian or worse variety.

Good Friday is a bank holiday in NI (and the whole of the UK) but not in Ireland.

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/bank-holidays

It’s not a holiday at all in Ireland.

There are 9 public holidays in Ireland each year. Public holidays may commemorate a special day or other event, for example, St Patrick's Day (17 March) or Christmas Day (25 December). On a public holiday, sometimes called a bank holiday, most businesses and schools close. Other services, for example, public transport still operate but often with restricted schedules. Public holidays are:

New Year's Day (1 January)
St. Patrick's Day (17 March)
Easter Monday
First Monday in May, June, August
Last Monday in October
Christmas Day (25 December)
St. Stephen's Day (26 December)
Good Friday is not a public holiday. While some schools and businesses close on that day, you have no automatic entitlement to time off work on that day.

"the DUP are all of joyless grim-faced Presbyterian or worse variety"

the worse variety ones idea of progressive is making their kids kneel on hard rice grains on a stone cellar floor rather than broken glass.

Gotcha. So this confirms my suspicion that Good Friday matters to Protestants more.

(xp)

Then why do they call it the Belfast Agreement? Can’t be because Good Friday is one of the holiest days of the Catholic Church or anything...

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lmao, some lungs on that fella

Then why do they call it the Belfast Agreement?

Is Fintan O'Toole's use of the term loaded? Genuinely curious:

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-the-belfast-agreement-is-flawed-but-not-in-the-way-brexiteers-think-1.3400311

the only one that matters is shrove tuesday aka pancake day

martinmas is also good foodwise mind you

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-belfast-agreement
https://www.bl.uk/learning/timeline/item105778.html

looks as though the belfast agreement was its original nickname

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-50057673

The government said name suggestions should "embrace the history and culture of Wellingborough".

The names will be narrowed down to a shortlist of potential options, with a panel of local representatives deciding on the final winner.

The name must then be formally agreed by The Queen, the Prisons Minister Lucy Frazer and Justice Secretary Robert Buckland.

The G4S Shithole Dungeon of Interminable Suffering and Doom? I've never really thought about naming a prison before, might pass on this one.

Chokey McChokeface

_Then why do they call it the Belfast Agreement?_


Is Fintan O'Toole's use of the term loaded? Genuinely curious:

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-the-belfast-agreement-is-flawed-but-not-in-the-way-brexiteers-think-1.3400311🕸

my earliest Good Friday memory is hearing my dad saying "well we've cooked the meat now" but he pronounced it coooked, but of course it's a strong catholic thing, unless I'm misunderstanding the argument here!

I'm no expert but it seems as though Good Friday is indeed more significant to Catholics than it is to Anglicans overall, but it's a bank holiday only on Anglican territory (so to speak), which strikes me as odd.

I hope you are not referring to Protestants in Scotland and NI as belonging to Anglican territory.

I think there's been a few wars over that.

The kirk is v serious business

Anything that isn't Eastern Orthodoxy is a schismatic heresy anyway so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

RIP Adonis

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Government scraps online 'porn block' plans after law hits kinks https://t.co/R17unx623h

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b-b-but what about the will of the people

law hits kinks

joke’s on them, the kinks are into
being hit

ray davies consulting his lawyers

International Trade Secretary Liz Truss has claimed that MPs will not get to vote on post-Brexit trade deals, despite their potential impact on the future of the country.

Speaking to the International Trade Committee this morning, Truss was asked by Labour MP Owen Smith whether she will provide Parliament with a yes/no vote on future trade agreements.

However, Truss flatly rejected this idea, saying that international treaties are an “executive prerogative” (i.e. they are negotiated and approved by the government alone).

This would essentially mean that the Prime Minister and a small group of Cabinet ministers would be free to fundamentally restructure Britain’s economy, without asking for Parliament’s consent.

that's alright, who could possibly harbour any worries about Truss and some of her deranged Britannia Unchained buddies having executive prerogative over the future of the UK's economy, the very meaning of safe hands!

"The real reason Parliament was prorogued for a second time was to scrap the Trade Bill with amendments which would have given Parliament a say over future trade deals."

I'm the quoting proverbial comments section that you should never read here, but this sounds about right.

couple of recent political things worth catching on iplayer: timex documentary & loki series on scotland has some interesting stuff too on impacts of austerity etc

JC you’re killing me

Always happy to meet and discuss our plans to end rip-off privatisation.

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I feel like I keep asking this but how under the Westminster system can anyone argue with a straight face that anything is an executive prerogative? Shouldn't it be axiomatic that the executive is delegated powers from Parliament and that it can withhold those powers whenever it likes?

The executive is delegated power by the queen.

oh lol I forgot about that part, I guess I meant under the assumption that the queen is a legal fiction

I mean she’s been dead years tbh

The right to sign treaties has never sat with Parliament since the restoration of the monarchy aiui, it has always been with the monarch or their delegated representative. There is no principle that says the legislature should have a say. The legislature can change the law to bring more stuff within its scope (including the power to go to war, recently) though.

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P Hitchens otm!

Oh get a room you two.

I'm just a closet small c conservative reactionary cunt, don't tell anyone!

lmao how did I miss this at the time (JC was talking about it in his interview w/ash sarkar today)

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Louise Ellman quits Labour.

I have made the truly agonising decision to leave the Labour Party after 55 years. I can no longer advocate voting Labour when it risks Corbyn becoming PM. I will continue to serve the people of Liverpool Riverside as I have had the honour to do since 1997. pic.twitter.com/3BTzUacZvo

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Her CLP voted to trigger reselection a few weeks ago and she’s making it an antisemitism issue. Is it? I don’t know much about her CLP.