Matt Taibbi

True, but so what? That doesn't prove he would have won without Russia. Because that is impossible to prove or disprove. And besides the point.

Pretty sure the electoral college was a bigger factor by several orders in any case and that is An American Problem

― Simon H., Monday, October 14, 2019

and voter suppression in North Carolina and especially Wisconsin.

yes, another American Problem that predates Trump by at least a few cycles.

this country is kind of fucked up in very many ways

this country is kind of fucked up in very many ways

It produced Matt Taibbi, after all.

Trump won because of American problems and not foreign intervention. Sure (it's not actually that certain, but let's say it is). He was still trying to get foreign involvement to help him next time.

His extremely urgent and clumsy attempt to get foreign intervention again strongly suggests that he, for one, does not believe he could have won without foreign intervention last time.

Pretty sure the electoral college was a bigger factor by several orders

Both campaigns knew about the electoral college and both strategized around its effect on the election. US voters have to hear endlessly about "swing states" during campaigns. It's hard to believe the Internet Research Bureau wasn't informed enough to know about the electoral college, too.

It is reasonable to think such basic knowledge of US elections would have guided some of their activities, especially since we know the Trump campaign was trying to get their own recent internal polling data in their hands. Saying that the EC was a big factor is not saying much. It's always a big factor and always has been. Russian troll farms have not always been added to that mix before. It was a new wrinkle in a very close election.

Well, Taibbi's...whatever you want to call it has been picked up by Breitbart, Instapundit, Scott Adams (FYI, the Dilbert dude is a full-on right-wing crazy), Mark Steyn, Ace of Spades and Pamela Geller.

I wish him all the best in his sure-to-be-lucrative career as a third-tier Trump-fellating grifter.

"even the Liberal Matt Taibbi says..."

This is a dumb line of attack not supported by the actual writing.

guys

Tatt Maibbi
^when i'm thinking about getting a tat

don't confuse unperson or Tombot with the writing

their Pavlovian response to M.T. is far more elusive and mysterious

We've seen this story play out over and over. Taibbi's in the "love bombing" phase of flipping to the Right, which narcissists like him are incredibly vulnerable to. I give him less than a year before he's photographed wearing a MAGA hat and shaking hands with big T in the oval office.

how much?

"narcissists" is such a popular label to assign anti-Trumpists who aren't full-blown Pelosians

anti-Trumpists who aren't full-blown Pelosians

So on your world Nancy Pelosi represents the far fringe of anti-Trump sentiment?

The highway center line, where all the roadkill ends up

If Trump loses in 2020, Taibbi’s main target for his vitriolic contrarianism will have to be the Democratic nominee and the party leadership, so he’s basically just hedging his bets, I suppose.

People who don’t believe in anything just aren’t very interesting to me anymore.

The highway center line, where all the roadkill ends up

Pithy, but it doesn't work as a simile because the roadkill I've observed is more often nearer the shoulder of the highway than the middle. Maybe the highways that abound in NYC are different.

People who don’t believe in the established military-industrial hegemony just aren’t very interesting to you anymore.

lol aimless i spent a day on whether to type "do you even DRIVE bro?" but decided morbs has enough fans

cheezit it's the metaphor police!

if i drove i'd be dead

uhhh

This NYT story about the opening of a criminal probe into the origins of Russiagate sounds like it was written by the defense lawyers of the investigation’s targets. https://t.co/Gp43Xxg9TJ

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) October 25, 2019

guy fuckin sucks imo but whatever

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/temporary-coronavirus-censorship

Instead of asking calmly if hydroxychloroquine works, or if the less restrictive Swedish crisis response has merit, or questioning why certain statistical assumptions about the seriousness of the crisis might have been off, we’re denouncing the questions themselves as infamous. Or we’re politicizing the framing of stories in a way that signals to readers what their take should be before they even digest the material. “Conservative Americans see coronavirus hope in Progressive Sweden,” reads a Politico headline, as if only conservatives should feel optimism in the possibility that a non-lockdown approach might have merit! Are we rooting for such an approach to not work?

Amen! It's been goddamn impossible to sort through any information and COVID-19 because of this shit.

and=about

this guy is a rapist

fuck him & all associates

not true.

But good job illustrating his point perfectly.

Well, I imagine the actual story behind the Sweden headline would be “conservatives hoping that non-disastrous data from a measured non-lockdown approach in a vastly different and more progressive society could justify forcing poor people to go back to work with minimal assistance or testing.”

we’re denouncing the questions themselves as infamous.

I love it when "we" means "all of us, but not me". This kind of low-key duplicity is a reliable sign of lazy or disingenuous writing.

are there actual sources for Taibbi and/or Ames indulging in horrible behavior and not just writing about it as questionable satire of their time in Russia

I mean, I read this shit after the fact in the book that I should probably sell to someone looking for printed proof of their crimes, but it always seemed like things I’d flip last but begrudgingly deal with because one of them had witnessed parliament being blown up in their adopted home

a few years ago a reporter went and interviewed a lot of ppl who had worked at the exile with taibbi and ames and they all said that none of it was true, all of it was just satire in shitty taste

wokeness at its most boring

yeah but Tara Reade blah blah Russia blah blah Katie Halper blah blah Matt Taibii blah blah rapist blah blah Russia

verbatim talking points iirc

@Aimless: I guess so, but it could also be a way to say "I'm sure I'm guilty of this too."

I really don't get the hate for this guy.

I fucking hate rapists & their satire excuse is bullshit they only came out with when they were called out. I wish they were dead. fuck you all

also it's fucking creepy how any negative tweet about these fucks gets bombarded by new accounts proclaiming their innocence, like they have some kind of namesearching-response team

disgusting fucks

all of you

let's say it was "just satire" which it wasn't- they should already have been cancelled for that, who the fuck thinks that shit is funny or clever

yeah but Tara Reade blah blah Russia blah blah Katie Halper blah blah Matt Taibii blah blah rapist blah blah Russia

if i wrote something like this i would kill myself

You seem cool.

fuck you too

Taibbi didn't rape anyone. Is it more important to cancel people than to be right? Is cancelling an innocent person better for the movement than admitting you are wrong?

lol

glad ilx user Left is here to help