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Oh, I remember it well. I was on team anybody who was grinding Jay Leno to powder, so I guess we disagree on his level of jerkiness.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 October 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link
I cannot recall anything Jay Leno has ever said or done that struck me as funny. His main talent would appear to be projecting a kind of ersatz geniality that superficially resembles good humor, but he never convinces me it is genuine or heartfelt, only that it is intended to appear genuine or heartfelt. That standard seems to be good enough for the host of a late night talk show, but imo late night talk shows resemble entertainment as much as near-beer resembles an alcoholic drink.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:33 (four years ago) link
Eh. Pre-internet and pre over saturation of the TV market, I totally understand the appeal of the format. Being awake late at night is lonely. Conan got me through some shit in my late teens.
Jay always seemed totally disingenuous to me. Ruthlessly driven dude and by all accounts a machine from the early stand up days and forward, but the mask never drops. He creeps me out.
― circa1916, Monday, 14 October 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link
Could've sworn he said regular grandfather since he was making a point about men in his family having kids late in life, but if not I stand corrected
― Josefa, Monday, 14 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link
That's the thing--he was new and very much a third-party, and he decided to push himself right into the middle of everything. Someone else might see this differently, but he was invited onto Leno's failed show as a peace offering (and, true, a little self-serving manipulation by Leno), and Kimmel completely ambushed him.
― clemenza, Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:20 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Jay wanted a chummy "welp, gee-whiz, we're all in this wacky show business together! Whaddya gonna do?" segment -- because taking back a show you left on your own terms (as he claimed at the time) because your new show is tanking is just how showbiz goes! -- and Kimmel wasn't entirely a third-party:
According to Kimmel, Leno had some years prior been in serious discussions with ABC about the possibility of jumping ship from NBC. During this period, Leno initiated a friendship with Kimmel, wanting to ensure that they would be on good terms if the move was made. (Under that scenario, Leno would have taken Kimmel's time slot and become his lead-in.) However, after Leno made the arrangement to remain at NBC, "those conversations were gone," according to Kimmel. Realizing that Leno's relationship with him had been artificial, Kimmel felt "worked over," reasoning that Leno was using the ABC discussions as a bargaining tactic to try to get his old job back.[166]
What reason could Kimmel possibly have for going along with a smug, smirky, shruggy-ass bullshit comedy bit like that?
(fwiw, I never liked Kimmel, nor ever found him the least bit funny, but compared to Leno, he's Richard Pryor)
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