the cult of dilla, c/d?

Britisher who isn't too invested in rap has big gaps in rap knowledge and weird opinions about rap, news at 11. I don't know why I'm defending dude, but the level of freaking out in this thread seems kind of above and beyond.

no ones freaking out. were just making fun

& 'the light' isnt close to his best dilla track either

yes, it's def close.
Rev clearly you were not alive during the 60s and therefore unable to judge when there's an actual FREAKOUT going down.

haha clearly

This is possibly the worst thread on ILM, and with the shit quality of most threads here that is really saying something.

^reliable

i wouldnt expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of dilla to be totally happy w this thread no

couldn't get much worse ... then cock walked in

"i wouldnt expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of dilla to be totally happy w this thread no

― autogucci cru (deej)"

i would expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of stupidity to be v happy with this thread.

let us pray

"i would expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of stupidity to be v happy with this thread."

And yet you are not. How strange.

alex did you just

i mean why even

it's pipecock for the sake of

nevermind

cock-baiting is an american classic

if it works the other way around, then i understand why reynolds wrote something so american-baiting

"i agree but i kind of think this:

Why do you look for 60s & 70s rock? Crippling reverence towards the past?

says a lot about his weird anti-90s rap weirdness."

Yeah I thought the line about looking for old rock was unfortunate in context. OTOH I don't think sr actually iscripplingly reverent towards 60s and 70s rock (he almost never talks about it), any more than anyone who buys soul records of old school rap is automatically a dj premier stan or owns a "dilla changed my life t-shirt."

Plus i don't think sr is actually anti-90s rap. He always seemed to love wu-tang and tupac. His hatred for biggie is obv highly offensive, of course.

any more than anyone who buys soul records of old school rap is automatically a dj premier stan or owns a "dilla changed my life t-shirt."

haa but thats sort of the nature of his bias, to the extent that he just heard 'wont do' for the first time .... i mean yeesh

"alex did you just

i mean why even

it's pipecock for the sake of

nevermind"

I know, I know. I feel dirty now.

Deej I think the whole "hearing Dilla in a record store" anecdote is set a few years back actually.

You're probably right otherwise though.

I like how he admits (if shamefacedly) to ultimately being won over by Common's performance on "The Light" after having dismissed Common out of hand for so long. Generally, I think people read a lot of condescension in his writing when often he's having a go at himself a bit. Like, I think he likes the convenience of crate-digging record stores that don't require you actually to bend down and rifle through old crates. And he knows, I think, that it's not somehow more "defensible" to go there for 60s/70s rock or avant garde stuff.

I always feel self-conscious going to the local dance record store in my suit on lunch breaks to rifle through records. Often without fully realising it I make snap value judgments about the people I see there (usually some combination of their clothes + their hair + the top record in the pile they're sampling), then remind myself that I probably look far more ridiculous.

"That night, after several hours of the choicest cuts, the dancefloor was packed, many new faces were there, evidence that Pipecock’s crusade rolled on, gathering more and more momentum with every passing day. Evidence that all those years spent relentlessly pursuing retards on messageboards were paying off. "

this thread has been huge fun

The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements.

this isnt much different from things that guys like premier or large professor have said over the years, tbf.

"jay stay paid" just isn't very good, is it?

only song I felt to be worthy of downloading after listening to the clips was 24K w/Havoc and Raekwon, and even that is just ok.

i can't believe patrin gave it 8.1

he gave mos def an 8.0

im trying to start my own cult of quik

"The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements."

these people must not go to Pittsburgh.

Jay Stay Paid is awesome and totally worthy of an 8.0

Mos Def not so much.

For me, I don't care for the majority of his own work, but I like most of the stuff he influenced.

― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark

as someone who's been pretty unimpressed with underground rap for most of the past decade, i'm starting to feel that a serious potential source of light on the horizon lies in the dilla aping realm. it goes deeper than flying lotus or black milk, and i'm not even talking shameless dilla jacking per se, but just that sense of making weird beats with loads of atmosphere and an offbeat lurch, and that sense of experimentation away from cleaner sounding drums or samples.

anyways, i'm anticipating a lot of people not liking this but it's a trend i'm v interested in at the moment but know way too little about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFRsJOWRSYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N63b2Tk-A&feature=related
(this one's actually a flying lotus production)

start here
itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

actually, start here, and then go here
The Sa Ra Creative Partners Thread, finally...

*there*

Cult is dud, Jay D is pretty classic (though a bit of a mixed bag). This is one of those things that I'm grateful that my brother was super into backpack shit in SE Michigan, so he knew Jay D (mostly through the Subterraneous crew and Slum Village folks), and I got to meet him a couple of times. He was a pretty chill guy, but "Dilla Changed My Life"? Not so much.

ya i've read and loved the pretentious rn'b thread, but i think this is something at least slightly different; i'm really thinking hip hop and slow head-nod instrumental hip hop. i read a rap review a while ago where the writer said something to the extent of "the production is refreshing in an era where every undie rap producer just recycles old dilla beats" and i thought 'hey i wouldn't mind it if everyone sounded like that.' thing is i just haven't heard enough it, and so far am not convinced that so much of it exists.

ok yes sa-ra is exactly what i was talking about, thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZZZ_SG-boE

that was pretty great

Dilla's Donuts began simply enough, in summer 2005, as an idea to turn a particularly good demo beat tape into a full-length release. We think we can safely say it has since became a classic hip-hop album, one of the defining works of the artist's life. This box set includes the album on seven 45s and a bonus 45 with "Signs" from the long out-of-print Donuts 'Fan Club 45' b/w DOOM & Ghostface's "Sniper Elite & Murder Goons" - two tracks over Donuts beats which were recorded in late 2005 prior to the original release of the album. These two tracks were released digitally in 2008, but have never before appeared on vinyl. Side D contains the "Donuts Outro/Intro" appearing as an interlude at the beginning of "The Diff'rence" which dates back to the first, original sequence of the album.

groan

I love Donuts, classic chillwave

classic

This box set includes the album on seven 45s

why do they do this? who buys these?

soulstrut is tumbleweeds right now b/c the entire board is running to the record store

i dont know but apparently already sold out pretty much everywhere already, though i suppose at $40 it works out to only $5/disc so i guess not total robbery

I was just going to do a donuts poll yesterday

the cult is 'annoying' but more annoying is being broke, having ants in my kitchen & not getting a call back from a chick i like

sometimes ppl around here are way too subculturally butthurt
wahhh nerds are corny

― ridin down the yellow brick road in the yellow 6-4 (deej), Monday, March 16, 2009 5:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all of those problems have been solved but the dilla cult still exists

mea culpa

this really is an amazing time capsule thread, can't believe velko posted in it

tbh madlib changed my life

kwh. ‏@kylebeats
@Jeedo47 @jrocc that beat isn't from a 1 thru 5 batch, it's from "another batch" 1998.

Waajeed AKA Jeedo ‏@Jeedo47
@kylebeats @jrocc I don't really give a shit to honest.

kwh. ‏@kylebeats
@Jeedo47 @jrocc to each his own.

Waajeed AKA Jeedo ‏@Jeedo47
@kylebeats No it's not to each his own. That's the problem. There are facts to this and dudes be freestyling like they know what it is.

kwh. ‏@kylebeats
@Jeedo47 i know, that's my point. I'm a stickler for facts and details.

Waajeed AKA Jeedo ‏@Jeedo47
@kylebeats What facts? Did you get a beat tape from Dilla?

kwh. ‏@kylebeats
@Jeedo47 are you confusing me with someone you don't know?

kwh. ‏@kylebeats
@Jeedo47 and why attack me for correcting an obvious mistake? who doesn't know that's 98?

Waajeed AKA Jeedo ‏@Jeedo47
More and more annoyed by you so called "Dilla Heads" You really don't have a fuckin clue which I did B47 Breaks in the 1st place.

ha awesome

wow this thread all over the place

anyways would have been 45 today rip beat maker