"He's writing for a Grauniad audience."
This would be a more plausible defense if his blog wasn't filled with equally facile observations.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
lol the comments on the simey article are like we made a parody of what this thread is about. There's even people bashing SR for liking Ludacris.― Tim F, Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:45 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Tim F, Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:45 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i agree but i kind of think this:
Why do you look for 60s & 70s rock? Crippling reverence towards the past?
says a lot about his weird anti-90s rap weirdness. he only likes one common song?? seriously??
― autogucci cru (deej), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
He's probably only heard one Common song.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
& 'the light' isnt close to his best dilla track either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU6MwPtBZvg
― autogucci cru (deej), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
xxxxp Hamilton listed J Dilla as an exec producer on his album "so the proceeds can go to the J Dilla Foundation", which apparently no longer exists. People called him out as just trying to eat off of Dilla's name and had a big bitchfit about it. Seems kinda loss-loss imo.
― someone who genuinely likes to make children cry (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i do appreciate that hes acknowledged that maybe dilla is occasionally good
― autogucci cru (deej), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Britisher who isn't too invested in rap has big gaps in rap knowledge and weird opinions about rap, news at 11. I don't know why I'm defending dude, but the level of freaking out in this thread seems kind of above and beyond.
― someone who genuinely likes to make children cry (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
no ones freaking out. were just making fun
― autogucci cru (deej), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
& 'the light' isnt close to his best dilla track either
yes, it's def close.Rev clearly you were not alive during the 60s and therefore unable to judge when there's an actual FREAKOUT going down.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 June 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link
haha clearly
― someone who genuinely likes to make children cry (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
This is possibly the worst thread on ILM, and with the shit quality of most threads here that is really saying something.
― pipecock, Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
^reliable
― someone who genuinely likes to make children cry (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i wouldnt expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of dilla to be totally happy w this thread no
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
couldn't get much worse ... then cock walked in
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
"i wouldnt expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of dilla to be totally happy w this thread no
― autogucci cru (deej)"
i would expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of stupidity to be v happy with this thread.
― pipecock, Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:33 (fourteen years ago) link
let us pray
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
"i would expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of stupidity to be v happy with this thread."
And yet you are not. How strange.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
alex did you just
i mean why even
it's pipecock for the sake of
nevermind
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:07 (fourteen years ago) link
cock-baiting is an american classic
― michel gonorrhea (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link
if it works the other way around, then i understand why reynolds wrote something so american-baiting
― mo money mo collier (some dude), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"i agree but i kind of think this:
says a lot about his weird anti-90s rap weirdness."
Yeah I thought the line about looking for old rock was unfortunate in context. OTOH I don't think sr actually iscripplingly reverent towards 60s and 70s rock (he almost never talks about it), any more than anyone who buys soul records of old school rap is automatically a dj premier stan or owns a "dilla changed my life t-shirt."
Plus i don't think sr is actually anti-90s rap. He always seemed to love wu-tang and tupac. His hatred for biggie is obv highly offensive, of course.
― Tim F, Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
any more than anyone who buys soul records of old school rap is automatically a dj premier stan or owns a "dilla changed my life t-shirt."
haa but thats sort of the nature of his bias, to the extent that he just heard 'wont do' for the first time .... i mean yeesh
― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"alex did you just
nevermind"
I know, I know. I feel dirty now.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 18 June 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Deej I think the whole "hearing Dilla in a record store" anecdote is set a few years back actually.
You're probably right otherwise though.
I like how he admits (if shamefacedly) to ultimately being won over by Common's performance on "The Light" after having dismissed Common out of hand for so long. Generally, I think people read a lot of condescension in his writing when often he's having a go at himself a bit. Like, I think he likes the convenience of crate-digging record stores that don't require you actually to bend down and rifle through old crates. And he knows, I think, that it's not somehow more "defensible" to go there for 60s/70s rock or avant garde stuff.
I always feel self-conscious going to the local dance record store in my suit on lunch breaks to rifle through records. Often without fully realising it I make snap value judgments about the people I see there (usually some combination of their clothes + their hair + the top record in the pile they're sampling), then remind myself that I probably look far more ridiculous.
― Tim F, Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:00 (fourteen years ago) link
"That night, after several hours of the choicest cuts, the dancefloor was packed, many new faces were there, evidence that Pipecock’s crusade rolled on, gathering more and more momentum with every passing day. Evidence that all those years spent relentlessly pursuing retards on messageboards were paying off. "
this thread has been huge fun
― sam500, Thursday, 18 June 2009 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link
The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements.
this isnt much different from things that guys like premier or large professor have said over the years, tbf.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 18 June 2009 08:01 (fourteen years ago) link
"jay stay paid" just isn't very good, is it?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link
only song I felt to be worthy of downloading after listening to the clips was 24K w/Havoc and Raekwon, and even that is just ok.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't believe patrin gave it 8.1
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
he gave mos def an 8.0
im trying to start my own cult of quik
― zzz (deej), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
"The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements."
these people must not go to Pittsburgh.
― pipecock, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Jay Stay Paid is awesome and totally worthy of an 8.0
― king of ^ flowers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Mos Def not so much.
― king of ^ flowers (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 June 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
For me, I don't care for the majority of his own work, but I like most of the stuff he influenced.
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark
as someone who's been pretty unimpressed with underground rap for most of the past decade, i'm starting to feel that a serious potential source of light on the horizon lies in the dilla aping realm. it goes deeper than flying lotus or black milk, and i'm not even talking shameless dilla jacking per se, but just that sense of making weird beats with loads of atmosphere and an offbeat lurch, and that sense of experimentation away from cleaner sounding drums or samples.
anyways, i'm anticipating a lot of people not liking this but it's a trend i'm v interested in at the moment but know way too little about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFRsJOWRSYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N63b2Tk-A&feature=related(this one's actually a flying lotus production)
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 March 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
start hereitt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b
― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
actually, start here, and then go hereThe Sa Ra Creative Partners Thread, finally...
*there*
― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Cult is dud, Jay D is pretty classic (though a bit of a mixed bag). This is one of those things that I'm grateful that my brother was super into backpack shit in SE Michigan, so he knew Jay D (mostly through the Subterraneous crew and Slum Village folks), and I got to meet him a couple of times. He was a pretty chill guy, but "Dilla Changed My Life"? Not so much.
― 'Bout time to change the display name to something clever (I eat cannibals), Friday, 5 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i've read and loved the pretentious rn'b thread, but i think this is something at least slightly different; i'm really thinking hip hop and slow head-nod instrumental hip hop. i read a rap review a while ago where the writer said something to the extent of "the production is refreshing in an era where every undie rap producer just recycles old dilla beats" and i thought 'hey i wouldn't mind it if everyone sounded like that.' thing is i just haven't heard enough it, and so far am not convinced that so much of it exists.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
ok yes sa-ra is exactly what i was talking about, thank you.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZZZ_SG-boE
― PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
that was pretty great
― jaxon, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Dilla's Donuts began simply enough, in summer 2005, as an idea to turn a particularly good demo beat tape into a full-length release. We think we can safely say it has since became a classic hip-hop album, one of the defining works of the artist's life. This box set includes the album on seven 45s and a bonus 45 with "Signs" from the long out-of-print Donuts 'Fan Club 45' b/w DOOM & Ghostface's "Sniper Elite & Murder Goons" - two tracks over Donuts beats which were recorded in late 2005 prior to the original release of the album. These two tracks were released digitally in 2008, but have never before appeared on vinyl. Side D contains the "Donuts Outro/Intro" appearing as an interlude at the beginning of "The Diff'rence" which dates back to the first, original sequence of the album.
groan
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
I love Donuts, classic chillwave
― brimstead, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
classic
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
This box set includes the album on seven 45s
why do they do this? who buys these?
― flopson, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
soulstrut is tumbleweeds right now b/c the entire board is running to the record store
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
i dont know but apparently already sold out pretty much everywhere already, though i suppose at $40 it works out to only $5/disc so i guess not total robbery
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I was just going to do a donuts poll yesterday
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
the cult is 'annoying' but more annoying is being broke, having ants in my kitchen & not getting a call back from a chick i like
sometimes ppl around here are way too subculturally butthurtwahhh nerds are corny
― ridin down the yellow brick road in the yellow 6-4 (deej), Monday, March 16, 2009 5:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link