C/D: Friends with Babies

desire and raising children have been the organizational principles of civilization since time immemorial, there is no shortage of deep ideological backing for the concept of raising children. choosing not to go that way needs more of a coherent solidarity imo. perhaps less based on "having kids is awful" and more based on "the concept of family needs to expand beyond blood roles and into experiential relationships," perhaps fostered by things like silby's political program.

XP Ordinary People came out, iirc.

it takes a paid ass village

I've forgiven my parents for having me, but barely

guys i'm sure sic has a very particular reason for choosing that year i mean he hasn't let me down yet

lol thanks bb

maybe it will be like the military where entering into this program will be a way for more people in the US to obtain affordable healthcare.

on "the concept of family needs to expand beyond blood roles and into experiential relationships," perhaps fostered by things like silby's political program.

this would benefit parents too

everyone

Will silby accept a moderate position, it’s fine to make babies it’s just unacceptable to let them live to be adults

I would accept babies if they grew up to be Nude Jake Gyllenhaal

You just have to purchase a lottery ticket like the rest of us.

No see once you’ve had a baby it’s a person and we have to take care of them

heh this reminds me of conversations with former middle school teachers, who, in their darker moments, thought that between the ages of 11 and 13, all children should just be put on a jungle island and left to their own devices Lord of the Flies style ... because those are the worst ages to try and teach.

I would accept babies if they grew up to be Nude Jake Gyllenhaal

i'm all for publically supported group childrearing as long as the budget includes earplugs and xanax

my sil offered to be a surrogate for our baby because she loves being pregnant??? But I had to tell her that it wouldn't solve the problem of not actually wanting the baby.

hah

i'm all for publically supported group childrearing as long as the budget includes earplugs and xanax

― cheese canopy (map), Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:17 PM (one minute ago)

we kinda have that already though -- it's called "school" -- and earplugs and xanax? Damn, some of our teachers have to buy their own paper!

haha

actually, I have friends who teach kids who would be stoked to get free xanax tho

a chicken in every pot, a xanax in every baby

a chicken in every baby, pot and xanax in every parent

a baby in every chicken, a booming market for soylent green futures

a Nude Jake Gyllenhaal in me

lock thread, we’ve cracked the case

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He was born in 1980.

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I see the passion never died.

does it ever?

I've got little kids - yeah it was hard for me to go out for a matter of months per child - but I think it depends on the friends. A couple of mine (with no kids) just dropped off the face of the earth once we had kids. Loads of texts trying to get them to come out but we were just no longer on their radar.

Getting to the age now where friends who are parents to young kids also have caring responsibilities to their own parents (dementia, health problems etc).

v. self-centered for people to have ailing parents without consulting their friends, who may not be into it

I admit to having "my people!" thoughts when I meet people my age (mid-40s) who do not have kids. There aren't that many of us!

there aren't that many of period. Gen Xers sandwiched between two much, much bigger generations.

many of US