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I def prefer our instrumental and audience-participatory set-up to the organ + cantor routine I grew up with. the cellos bring a bit of classical chamber music to it, the clarinet and guitar bring the klezmer/folk side, and then we have a choir. Plus the Rabbi + percussionist hand drumming which adds a sort of Israeli/north african feel to things. idk I guess that's pretty hippy but I like it.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

There's also a couple classically trained vocal soloists, one handled Kol Nidre etc

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

A friend had a great facebook debate going on his wall about some nu-YK prayer where you congratulate yourself for your good deeds in addition to confessing your sins. It turned out it was created by the founder of "open orthodox" judaism, which was weird because it seemed at least as hippy-dippy and revisionist as anything you find in the reconstructionist movement.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

Jewish pluralism is a beautiful and nonlinear thing

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

...take a sad song, and make it bubbe.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Friday, 11 October 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link

We didn't even have an organ, just a solo acapella cantor (which could be very haunting)

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link

Our Reform temple is pretty reform, with choir, piano, guitar at times, social justice issues at the fore, etc. But last year I went to a bar mitzvah at a Reconstructionist synagogue in Oakland and boy, did it make our temple look stodgy.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 October 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link

There is a lot of singing and dancing

Οὖτις, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I was in Costco today and waiting in line I heard the (really friendly!) person working the register ask each customer if they were interested in buying any "holiday stamps." Being a smartass, when she asked me I just very dryly asked her "which holiday?" And she kind of paused and said, "well, they've got Santa on them, so ..." And then she realized I was just teasing, because of course it was just Santa. I do think it's kind of lame to bother calling them "holiday stamps" if it's only one holiday represented and how it's represented isn't fooling anyone.

Anyway: hey Jews! Do any of you have a good comparative Judeo-Christian religion book recommendation? I realized only recently that I know next to nothing about Christianity, and not much more about Islam, but they all share so much with Judaism there's got to be a good book about their relationships, textual, historical, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

might xpost this to outernational later but figure despite this not being an ilm thread it might be a good place to share this:
https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/the-hidden-world-of-psychedelic-jewish-folk

Mordy, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link

what the hell?

that Shmulik Kraus track sounds like a post-Tropicalia Caetano Veloso outtake

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

To offer a disrespectful I Love Comics answer to Josh’s question from November, I found Larry Gonick’s Cartoon History of the Universe books to be (in)decent on that front.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

You could also go crazy and try the MacCulloch route: https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126226424

El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link

Josh - I asked a friend who teaches Judaism, Christianity, Islam and she recommended this text:

https://www.amazon.com/Jews-Christians-Muslims-Introduction-Monotheistic/dp/0205018254

Mordy, Thursday, 9 January 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

lol at textbook pricing tho

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 10 January 2020 00:09 (four years ago) link

true, might be able to grab a copy through the library? tho $40 for a used textbook isn't a terrible price.

Mordy, Friday, 10 January 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link

it's on the grimly tolerable end certainly.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 10 January 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkQATH3O1H8

Mordy, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

p sure Jews and their cultural/media outlets aren't the source of anti-semitism but ok

New York is combatting anti-Semitism with a new ad campaign featured in Orthodox and Hasidic Jewish print and digital outlets, in addition to social media.

The New York City Commission on Human Rights launched a campaign to fight religious harassment and discrimination and to emphasize the city’s support for its Jewish population. The commission said in a release that the campaign was in response to rising anti-Semitic incidents in the city, the surrounding area and the country.

One of the new ads reads, “Jewish New Yorkers belong here. Anti-Semitism does not.”

The advertisements will be featured in Orthodox and Hasidic Jewish print outlets such as Hamodia, Jewish Press and Mishpacha, as well as online at The Jewish Week and in the NYC Human Rights Commission’s social media.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

¿?

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

Kinda like someone wants to be seen doing something more than they want to do something

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

run those ads in the Stormfront newsletter, I hear they need the money

Pierre Delecto, Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

maybe the ads are more to make the jewish community feel safe and supported rather than convince antisemites to stop hating jews?

Mordy, Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

that was the only rationale I could come up with

idk how comforting a bunch of dumb ads are when people are getting randomly murderedq

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 February 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A friend just had to cancel their daughter's bat mitzvah, which is in less than a month. Rescheduled date tbh. So ... will she have to learn an entirely new torah portion? I assume so!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link

our community's largest synagogue is not holding services this shabbat for the first time ever

Mordy, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link

we're still having small gathering stuff but I expect the kids' shul activities to shut down shortly. They were bummed about the purim megillah getting cancelled, and a shabbat thing we were gonna do next week is also not happening now.

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

(lol not rescheduled date tbh, tbd)

We got a generic warning for those at risk to take extra precautions, but also assurances that our synagogue will absolute abide by any recommendations and will be changing things as needed, either moving them to where there is more space or cancelling them outright.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

My wife is the executive director of a synagogue. They're suspending all programs and operations as of today, including Shabbat services. We're in Western Mass. I know some places are going to be livestreaming services to an empty sanctuary.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 13 March 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

Services are still going on here with distancing measures & no kiddush lunch, who knows for how long. We are organizing to shop for older congregants and leave groceries outside their doors.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

A lot of older parents gonna be having seder alone this year. Ours are. I just see no way of traveling to their house and staying with them that doesn't involve a real risk of us bringing them virus.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 13 March 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So, um, what's the plan, everybody? A friend of mine joked that we're going to see more articles about Zoom seders than actual Zoom seders. The paltry Passover supplies around here get picked over pretty quickly in the best of times, so I hope no one is hoarding the matzoh.

On a slightly different note, current events will certainly lend an awkward vibe to tales of plague, first born and inviting in strangers. Keep your distance, Elijah.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 April 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link

Don’t have the heart to lead a zoom seder but I’m gonna make the dang brisket.

silby, Monday, 6 April 2020 03:41 (four years ago) link

making my first seder without my parents :/ feels sad man

Mordy, Monday, 6 April 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link

Zoom seder with mother-in-law, brisket

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 6 April 2020 04:41 (four years ago) link

I was out walking the dog this week and noticed for the first time that, a few houses down from, they have a minivan with the license plate KOL TOOV.

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Monday, 6 April 2020 12:44 (four years ago) link

we will have our regular family seder with my mom on Zoom, most likely. I bought all the necessary supplies over the weekend.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link

Free Passover crossword puzzle incoming:

This week's crossword is a meta by @AimeeLucido + avcx forever-friend @metabymatt.

It comes with an original drawing by New Yorker cartoonist Robert Leighton, which figures into the meta.

If your family can't be together on Passover, try solving this together remotely!

— American Values Club (@AVCXWord) April 6, 2020

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 6 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

Huh, so I guess it turns out we *are* doing a Zoom seder with our temple. Let's see how that turns out, but it could be worth it for the novelty alone.

Speaking of how things turn out, my younger daughter's bat mitzvah is (still, at least for now) scheduled for September. A lot of her friends had been teasing her for being on the young end, and the last of the bunch to be a bat mitzvah, but in an ironic twist all of their April and May and June services have been rescheduled for October, November, December. So she may end up being among the first!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

lovely thought about korach that i just saw from Yeshayahu Leibowitz

"The Judaism of Moses is arduous. It means knowing that we are NOT a holy people. The Judaism of Korah is very comforting. It allows every Jew to be proud and boast that he is a member of the holy people, which is holy by its very nature. This obligates him to nothing. There is no greater opposition than between the conception of Am Segulah (a chosen people) as implying subjection to an obligation and Am Segulah as purely a privilege. He who empties the concept of the Jewish people of its religious content ... and still describes it as Am Segulah turns this concept into an expression of racist chauvinism.

The uniqueness of the Jewish people is not a fact; it is an endeavor. The holiness of Israel is not a reality but a task. "Holy" is an attribute that applies exclusively to God. It is therefore inapplicable to anything in the natural or historical domain. He who does so apply it is guilty of idolatry. He exalts something natural or human to the level of the divine."

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

remarkable

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Interesting. Maybe related (my theology is half-assed and rusty at best), my younger daughter has been working on her torah portion, which is right when Moses finally reaches the promised land and God more or less reiterates the key tenets of nascent Judaism while threatening those who deviate or fall off. And my daughter was a little annoyed, reading it as more or less extortion: you better do this, or else. And even though this is nothing I really think about, it did make me try to find a way to describe to her what could be going on there, namely that God is giving his followers his blessing but also a choice, but that choice requires work, and in return for doing that work God promises to be forgiving and let you try again, even if that work is not done right, or quickly, or consistently. It's less extortion and more God imparting the wise notion that putting in the effort, even failing, is better than just getting the holy imprimatur and coasting on his support. At least that's how I read it. Yes, you are chosen, but it is kind of a two way street, so don't get complacent.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

god is all about continual improvement per ISO 9000

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

It makes a lot of sense that moses judaism would be sisyphean tbf

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

My daughter was all, wait a minute, if Moses did all this stuff for God, and brought the Jews to the promised land, then ... why doesn't he get to go into the promised land? (The reason given is clearly total BS.) Or poor Abraham, who is prepared to murder his son until a last minute reprieve, ha ha, all is good, except he and Isaac never see each other again, whoops. The pious can't win for losing.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link

here is my stance on God and the Jews:

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

you do what God tells you not for prudential reasons but because God tells you to

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link

I usually try to read the torah with the understanding that the most extreme punishments are likely reserved for the things about wish the drafters intended to send the strongest message/the ideas that were held most sacred. Of course, this is circular to an extent, but I prefer to try to read the Torah by its own internal logic--to the extent that such logic is consistent--rather than according to my own independent moral values.

IIRC, Moses loses his privilege to enter the promised land because he not only disobeys God, but does so in a way that makes him, rather than God, appear to be the one with the power to bring forth water. By punishing Moses so severely, God sends a message that is directly related to the "crime," i.e. even Moses, the great leader, is not exempt from obedience to God.

An episode that always bothered me more was the smiting of Aaron's sons. I mean, obviously the fact that they die for not following the proper ritual practice emphasizes that said ritual practice must be really, really important, but it's hard for me to accept.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

or, more succinctly, xpost

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

if it were merely prudent to observe the laws and customs of the Torah it wouldn't be holy

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 23 June 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link


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