Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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AND THEN WE HAD SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR! <sax solo>

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!

All right!

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

Keep it rockin' boys!

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

How are you all doing these without using the word "sir"?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

Sex In The Car, Sir

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

<Nils does a dance on a trampoline>

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

Out from under the shadows of the pulasky skyway
Speeding past the Sbarro sign at the Walt Whitman rest area
We can ride this turnpike all night but the ride ain't free
just tell me what exit and I'll punch your ticket baby

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like it should actually be "Burnin' past the Sbarro sign..."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

Fair point, it's not really Springsteen unless something's on fire.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

or he gave away the g's

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

I put those g's in Sir Sbarro's sign, honey, and then I torched it

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

And she said "Honey you should know by now that pizza's no good!"
as she lit a cigarette and flicked the ashes on my hood

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

Another American job lost to high tech outsourcing

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

Saw her in the Sbarro's by the dynamo
Just a-twirlin' that pizza dough

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

The bar band there was hopping
I got lost in Rhonda's world
Redemption was the topping
As the pizza slowly twirled

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

They closed down the Sbarro's 'cross the railroad track
Ralph went out looking for pizza and never came back

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

Everybody knows a hungry Ralph

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Meet me tonight at Panera Bread

... (Eazy), Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

no dude that's mark kozelek

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

his songs are even easier to parody because he pretty much writes them as parodies of their own style to begin with

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

I had to listen to "The Promise" earlier - Bruce's most self-referential song? That 2-disc lost album sort of thing they put out with the Darkness box is nice, but the 3 year gap (lawsuit-imposed?) between Born to Run and Darkness probably did him a lot of good in the long run.

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

IS THERE SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR?
YES THERE"S SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!

nickn, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

That killed me because Bruce has never directly sang about sex, eh?

--

https://the-niche.blog/2018/04/16/the-top-ten-horniest-bruce-springsteen-songs/

On Badlands: "Any given lyric in this song could be about overthrowing American capitalism or getting gloriously, generously rawed. Or both!"

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

Because The Night Belongs To Fuckers

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

that list of horny springsteen songs is glaringly missing "candy's room."

and the ILM springsteen song is glaringly missing a river. or lake. or some body of water.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

good point.

We kiss, my heart's pumpin' to my brain
And the blood rushes in my veins, the fire rushes towards the skies
I go driving, driving deep into the night
I go driving deep into the light, in Candy's eyes
...

i'm gonna take a shower

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

There's that song on "Devils & Dust" about a prostitute in Reno that's about as explicit as Bruce has ever gotten, or for that matter could be.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

my. goodness.

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:31 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PoIrcyd34

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:49 (four years ago) link

and the ILM springsteen song is glaringly missing a river. or lake. or some body of water.

It's also missing the part where he listens to the radio. We have so much work to do.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 23:55 (four years ago) link

The buildup and release in the beginning of “somewhere in the night” was my first big OH WOW Bruce moment (outside of “tunnel of love” and certain BitUSA singles). Now I love all the classic stuff

brimstead, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

By the moonlit lake, there's a teenage punk
Jackin' off into a ball cap which is full of spunk
Meanwhile a Chevy roars across the bridge over the river
And the old faded mine worker does some more damage to his liver

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 October 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link

Willows weep and hangdogs creep like barflies crawling down the street
While the lights from the swamps glow bright with high pomp for the girls we're trying to meet
The wheels on the car spin fast to go far from the places we want to escape
But the draw of the dump smells strong of gas pumps and we all pass out from the heat

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 October 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

A+

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 11 October 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link

"Pink Cadillac" also belongs on the list of horny songs. I love that Springsteen wrote a song about a black Cadillac and a song about a pink Cadillac, and the black Cadillac is a metaphor for death and the pink Cadillac is a metaphor for vaginas. That is some sophisticated symbolism right there.

Lily Dale, Friday, 11 October 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link

I was thinking about adding a verse about driving Dow. To philly with a girl from basking ridge and stopping on the way to make it under the Trenton makes bridge.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 October 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

I don't know, that sounds a bit too happy. Better throw in a state trooper or two.

Lily Dale, Friday, 11 October 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

Red Headed Woman from the Not Unplugged album is pretty frisky:

Listen up stud, your life's been wasted
till ya got down on your knees and tasted
a red headed woman, a red headed woman
it takes a red headed woman to get a dirty job done

Tight skirt, strawberry hair
tell me what you got baby waitin under there
big green eyes that look like, son
they can see every cheap thing that you've ever done

Well I don't know how many girls you dated man
but you ain't lived till you had your tires rotated
by a red headed woman, a red headed woman
it takes a red headed woman to get a dirty job done

Cow_Art, Friday, 11 October 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link

That's one I always try to forget ever happened. Bruce in couch-jumping mode. I'm glad you enjoy going down on your wife, Bruce, but please stop writing songs about it.

"Secret Garden" is fairly explicit too - "she'll let you in her mouth/ if the words you say are right" - and I don't much like that one either. I feel like something happened to his way of writing about sex when he got married, where he's more explicit but also more self-conscious and awkward about it.

Lily Dale, Friday, 11 October 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Speaking of horny Bruce, this performance of the e.street shuffle was a bit startling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81QcctmsodI

Lily Dale, Friday, 11 October 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link

He's on Graham Norton, along with Robert DeNiro.

That's a chat show lineup!

Mark G, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

Latest official live archive release is 10/23/99, in Los Angeles, a show that changed up a lot of the reunion set (for example, nothing from BitUSA!). I saw a chunk of reunion tours, and each time I remember telling the person I was with, man, he is so incredible it's hard to believe that in '98/'99 he was about 20 years past his '78 peak as a performer, when he was even better. And of course we are now another 20 years past him being 20 years past his peak ... and he was still pretty good on the 2016 tour!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

Josh in Chicago, can you explain something to me? Why is it, exactly, that '78 is generally agreed to be his peak? I have only videos to go on, and I think his '78 performances are amazing, but I can't quite see what makes them so much better than the River tour or the Born in the USA tour.

Lily Dale, Monday, 14 October 2019 06:48 (four years ago) link

smaller venues

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Monday, 14 October 2019 06:50 (four years ago) link

It's a good question. Keeping in mind that he's really never been *bad*, and just about every show I've ever heard from, say, '74 to the Tunnel of Love Express tour (and beyond, tbh) has been pretty great, I'd say a few factors were at work. Yeah, smaller venues for sure, but Bruce also still had something to prove, at least to some degree. Born to Run made him a critic's darling, and the covers of Time and Newsweek introduced him to a wider audience, so expectations were pretty high. The tour also followed the infamous lawsuit that kept him out of the studio for a few years, time Bruce and the band (still probably breaking in new additions Max and Roy and, post-BtR, Steve) largely spent touring and woodshedding. When the suit was finally settled Bruce was at last free to record Darkness, whose sessions were fraught but whose material was A+, and also marked a shift to a more-direct sound, away from BtR's cinematic fanfares. Not only did all the live versions of songs like "Badlands" and "Prove It All Night" absolutely top their recorded counterparts, Bruce also had a pile of live-only sure-fires like "Fire" and "Because the Night" and even "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" that he busted out, plus the occasional early appearance of "River" songs like "Independence Day" and "Point Blank." And yet his well of songs was not yet so deep that you were still more or less guaranteed to hear many of your old favorites, and his shows were punctuated with some great storytelling, too, which he later had less room for.

So there's all that, imo. Then there was also the still somewhat novel proliferation of bootlegs, and shows like the Roxy, Passaic/Capital Theater and Winterland not only made the rounds, but Roxy and Winterland were so revered (and well recorded) they even made up a chunk of his official Live 1975-85 set (albeit sometimes in edited form). So between the live recordings official and otherwise, many of the shows on the '78 tour were essentially canonized as part of his catalog.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

That show in the Darkness box is phenomenal. Love that recording of "The Ties That Bind," even though the intro is a little rocky. Did Bruce play much 12-string electric onstage other than that song/show?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

There's not much footage of Bruce playing anything but a Tele on stage (as far as electrics go). There might be something I'm forgetting, but from memory the only other 12-string stuff from that "River" era is from some versions of "The Price You Pay" and the outtake "Loose Ends." Maybe he thought 12-string was a little on the nose?

In recent years it's usually Steve who gets the Rickenbacker or White Falcon or mandolin or whatever. Even Nils I want to say largely sticks with one guitar, his Jazzmaster, though he occasionally gets in some Dobro or lap steel.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 October 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

Ok, thanks, that makes sense. It sounds like it's as much about the venues and the songs, and, like, the whole context of the tour as it is about the performances.

If someone showed up in a time machine today and offered me a ride to the Springsteen tour of my choice, I think I'd be pretty torn. I do love all the interplay with the audience in the '78 shows, and how the energy is so high but it all feels a little rough around the edges still. And it's great to see him all young and lithe, before he decided to encase himself in muscle. But so many of my favorite songs came a little later. Darkness is actually pretty low on my list of favorite Bruce albums, though I do think almost everything on it sounds better live.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link

Just listened to Wrecking Ball for the first time (I've been slooowly working my way through the post-Tunnel of Love stuff, in a very random order) and was surprised to find that I love the title track. It's way more affecting than a song about the demolition of a stadium has any right to be.

Lily Dale, Friday, 18 October 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

It could use a reservoir or tributary, otherwise solid B+

maffew12, Friday, 18 October 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link


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