Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

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what's this, you got an advance copy of his poetry book?

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

There's a whole subset of Springsteen songs about life being so shitty you just have to get into your car and drive away, to escape, or worse. "Thunder Road," "Racing in the Streets," "Stolen Car," "State Trooper," "Hungry Heart" ...

And another subset (related) about finding love and happiness but then being tempted away by the irresistible lure of easy money/the open road/unspecified "things."

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

I went to Rutgers and spent some time living and working in Jersey after so it's interesting to me how much the Boss and that whole aesthetic and emotional landscape is both a reflection of and an influence on a lot of people I know. There is a lot of *place* in his songs. I think the density of his lyrics is partly a reflection of the density of the place -- it's like a more packed form of country music where the country is industrial wasteland, suburban sprawl, and boardwalk towns.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

Today I Learned that man alive is actually an AI Springsteen generator.

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link

I think the density of his lyrics is partly a reflection of the density of the place -- it's like a more packed form of country music where the country is industrial wasteland, suburban sprawl, and boardwalk towns.

I like how - especially in Nebraska - he can take all that realist detail and give it a subtle twist through another dimension. You think this is all a John McPhee-level stacking-up of mundane detail, and then you gradually notice that everything's just a bit off kilter.

I think my favorite instance is "Open All Night," where it seems like he's just cataloguing a night drive - gas stations, pay phones, gospel radio and all - and then it dawns on you that he had two hours to go at the beginning of the song and he has three hours to go at the end, and this is Looking Glass Country and he's never going to get home.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

i always wanted a little fact check wrt the guy who never smoked pop supposedly and lines like "Wizard imps and sweat sock pimps/
Interstellar mongrel nymphs"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link

No real stoner would manage to match the syllable count on those two lines, Springsteen is a cop

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

A Cop Who Never Smoked Pop.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

he's never going to get home

It's almost as if he went out for a ride and he never went back.

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

Rhonda let's drive this chevy out into the switchblade night
let's take all our shattered dreams and toss em out into the creek
that runs behind the pollution factory where the drunks all
sing about the prom queen that they almost married

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 15:45 (one hour ago) link

Rhonda I know there's still magic somewhere out in those stars
and I think we can find it if you have sex with me tonight in my caaaaaaaaaaarrrr!!!!

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

<Big Man takes a sax solo>

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

lol

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

Re: Bruce never smoking pot - yeah, and then there's this performance of "Wild Billy" where he a.) seems super stoned and b.) introduces the song by offering to trade a song dedication for weed? (I think - he's mumbling so much it's hard to tell.) Great performance, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAUrofM9DDs

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

To man alive: good, but it needs more road references or some place names, like

You're not sure if you should put out or wait
The answer is somewhere on the interstate
Baby don't make me read between the lines
All the wisdom I need is beneath these Jersey pines

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

I feel like someone needs to either code an auto-Brucenator, or start a crowdsourced Boss-imitation thread called "Sprilxsteen" or something

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link

Well I thought I saw the Jersey Devil out behind the WaWa last night
Carly calls taylor ham pork roll but I don't mind
So let's ride this jughandle til the wheels fall off this '87 pontiac
I'm heading out to Six Flags and I don't know if I'm comin' back

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

how's that YMP?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

First-rate!

Just make sure you get a Steinbeck character into the chorus and it's done.

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

"Last night" is the touch that really makes it.

You might need to add a dream sequence and some father issues, though. And a gypsy curse.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

<Big Man takes a sax solo>

this is killing me rn

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link

Out from under the shadows of the pulasky skyway
Speeding past the Sbarro sign at the Walt Whitman rest area
We can ride this turnpike all night but the ride ain't free
just tell me what exit and I'll punch your ticket baby

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

Never knew my daddy, but he was a union man
Gypsy woman told him "do all that you can"
I walked in a dream past the boardwalk sights
Saw John Steinbeck in those neon lights

We're almost there. Just need some chugging Roy Bittan chords through a Leslie speaker.

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link

Not so fast - if you want to beat Dylan at this game, you'll need crime, a character of indeterminate gender, and some sisters.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link

wait so this song opened with sex in the caaaaarrrr?

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

Lily Dale, you could be helping here - at least sketch out a verse, sheesh.

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

I am the Jon Landau of this song. I don't help, I just provide highbrow criticism.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link

I think sex in the caaaaaaarrrr was a false ending? (To be followed by ONE TWO THREE FOUR! and the verse about the Jersey Devil.)

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link

ok.

A figure in green haunted my dream
Maybe a man, maybe a lady
My sister heard a siren scream
Gypsy said "that was your maybe"

Rhonda was stuck in between
Blood in the mist out by the beach
Vanished behind a smokestack screen
The cops arrived, she was out of reach

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

[unintelligible moaning]

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

AND THEN WE HAD SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR! <sax solo>

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!
SEX IN THE CAAAAAARRRR!

All right!

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

Keep it rockin' boys!

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

How are you all doing these without using the word "sir"?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

Sex In The Car, Sir

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

<Nils does a dance on a trampoline>

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

Out from under the shadows of the pulasky skyway
Speeding past the Sbarro sign at the Walt Whitman rest area
We can ride this turnpike all night but the ride ain't free
just tell me what exit and I'll punch your ticket baby

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:42 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I feel like it should actually be "Burnin' past the Sbarro sign..."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:47 (four years ago) link

Fair point, it's not really Springsteen unless something's on fire.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

or he gave away the g's

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link

I put those g's in Sir Sbarro's sign, honey, and then I torched it

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

And she said "Honey you should know by now that pizza's no good!"
as she lit a cigarette and flicked the ashes on my hood

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

Another American job lost to high tech outsourcing

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

Saw her in the Sbarro's by the dynamo
Just a-twirlin' that pizza dough

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

The bar band there was hopping
I got lost in Rhonda's world
Redemption was the topping
As the pizza slowly twirled

Saint Buffy (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

They closed down the Sbarro's 'cross the railroad track
Ralph went out looking for pizza and never came back

Lily Dale, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

Everybody knows a hungry Ralph

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Meet me tonight at Panera Bread

... (Eazy), Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

no dude that's mark kozelek

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

his songs are even easier to parody because he pretty much writes them as parodies of their own style to begin with

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

I had to listen to "The Promise" earlier - Bruce's most self-referential song? That 2-disc lost album sort of thing they put out with the Darkness box is nice, but the 3 year gap (lawsuit-imposed?) between Born to Run and Darkness probably did him a lot of good in the long run.

maffew12, Thursday, 10 October 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link


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