Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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yeah i never really got why it was so ~spacious~
seemed v impractical

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 October 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

In the book avasarala gets the one couch and Bobby wedges her power armour in place and lets the armour deal with the Gs. It’s actually a much better image in my mind.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 10 October 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

N Y C C 2 0 1 9 :) @ExpanseOnPrime #TheExpanse pic.twitter.com/T4rXKy9hFr

— Dominique Tipper (@Mi55Tipper) October 5, 2019

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 October 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link

yeah i never really got why it was so ~spacious~

That's because they are in
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... space.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Thursday, 10 October 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link

an expanse, if you will

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link

I have now read all the books, but have yet to read any of the short stories. a

I think I started with the series around August 20 so it’s been a ride

mh, Thursday, 10 October 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

"Strange Dogs" gives background to some of the stuff in Tiamat's Wrath, but I found the short stories to be poorly written.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

I just enjoyed the backstory they gave to various characters like Bobbie, Amos & Johnson.

groovypanda, Friday, 11 October 2019 08:31 (four years ago) link

The writing seems pretty variable in the main books too. Perhaps one of Corey is better than the other Corey?

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 11 October 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

Ty Franck devised the universe of the Expanse (a binder full of background info) as setting for a tabletop role-playing game, and handles half the viewpoint chapters, including those for the character Holden. Daniel Abraham, former assistant to George R. R. Martin and published author in his own right, handles the other half of chapters, including those for detective Miller. They plotted out the 9-book arc before starting, divy up plot beats for each book, and then write their respective viewpoint chapters, then the other author reviews and lightly edits the other's chapters for continuity/science. Abraham has the harder job editing, as many of Franck's "pear-shaped" situations and air "tasting of copper" still find their way in.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

Reading the novels, it's surprising how unpadded they are, despite their size. The big action set-pieces are usually resolved in just a few pages.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

with the exception of the on-planet novel that I seem to have enjoyed more than most, there’s pretty much an action/plot/character beat moment per chapter and they all move the story forward

It’s not deep literature, but as a pulpy space science fiction adventure it works really well! The dumbest criticism I’ d seen is about why all the huge galactic events seem to hinge on the actions of Holden and company. Of course it does, they’re the main characters and that’s how the genre they’re going for works!

mh, Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

Also, shit follows them everywhere.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Thursday, 24 October 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link

i think proto-Miller even explicitly asks Holden - have you noticed how you're always in the middle of it?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 October 2019 06:20 (four years ago) link

I love proto-Miller.

sarahell, Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

Was looking at the Expanse role-playing game, and the designers/illustrators seem to be under the impression that the main characters are all trolls:
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Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 25 October 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link

To be fair, the broadcast series cast the crew really young. Amos in the books starts as a balding middle aged man with a paunch.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

My internal image of Amos has always been something along the lines of Herc Hauk from the wire.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI8m5r5XsAAWGgf?format=jpg&name=small

groovypanda, Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

Explore the unknown. #TheExpanse season 4 premieres December 13 on @PrimeVideo. pic.twitter.com/TVH96KlroC

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) November 18, 2019

groovypanda, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

ヾ(^^ゞ)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

😍😍😍😍😍

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

Same day as UK election results - will be some consolation in the event of a Tory majority I suppose.

chap, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Season 4 is up.

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

aww chap, I just had the same thought

starting it right now and I can’t wait for Holden to start pulling rabbits out of his hat

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link

Oh right saw a non series thing was up on pirate bay. Had serial number including 00 and I haven't had a closer look. So may be making of special or something.
So thought new season must be due.

Stevolende, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

watch out, there’s a series summary clip (maybe that 00 thing) narrated by... Kevin Smith

I can report that I have watched it and it summarizes the series thus far reasonably well but the attempts at humor are bad

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link

thank fuck for the expanse.

it will be weird not having to wait a week in between episodes.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 13 December 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

they’re going a different direction with the planetary hijinks than the books and it’s working pretty well so far! (watching episode 2)

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

I’m wondering how many hours of sleep I absolutely need to be able to work semi-productively tmrw.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 13 December 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link

Wife is out at her Christmas party tonight so wondering how many episodes I can cram in

groovypanda, Friday, 13 December 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link

i managed to do four before the cold medication took me out.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 13 December 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

It's okay (minimal spoilers):

We won't hear more talk of unlimited Bezos money, as several scenes called for an Emmerich production and got a non-premium TV budget. "A" plot adapts the (by consensus) weakest book in the series. Burn Gorman plays to type, the red shirt death counter ticks up, but it all feels stakeless compared to prior seasons. Of the three "B" plots, "OPA self-policing" is good (esp. Inaros casting); "Bobbie Breaks Bad" is rote, but usefully presages the Martian existential crisis, and has the best action scenes to date; and the "UN West Wing" plot is dire (Pres. Roslin couldn't save it).

Aside: those with subwoofers and downstairs neighbors will need to turn it down. So many doom WHOOMPs and drones that that Zimmer might be embarrassed.

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Friday, 13 December 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

I’m enjoying it a bit more than that!

The subtext is made clear where I’m at, 2/3rds of the way in, in a monologue by the bent cop Bobbie’s fallen in with. The promise of terraforming Mars seems hollow when there are new planets already capable of life beyond the gates, Earth is feeling the pinch — and it’s likely going to be worse by season end I’m guessing — and the OPA is at war with itself. Meanwhile, the Roci crew are seeing what happens when those promised new worlds backfire.

I’m feeling the tension! And I don’t mind a lack of large scale effects when the smaller sets and the camp work pretty well. It’s a very claustrophobic show, tbh

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

There's tension in the pileup of Blackwater 2350, biblical disasters and afflictions, to be sure. We need two hands to count the ways our heroes are imperiled to certain death by Ep 8. But until the final scenes, these only endanger the Roci crew and a few dozen mostly extras, which is a pronounced reduction in stakes compared to prior big-bads...

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Friday, 13 December 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

Going out tonight, planning to start watching this over the weekend.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 13 December 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

i'm going in!

(actually went in 10 mins ago so no one could stop me)

mark s, Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

"It's good advice"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

god i love these guys

mark s, Saturday, 14 December 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

Not even close to being Amos's best line this episode.

"What was she wearing?"

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 14 December 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

“I’m just going to see if it works”

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 14 December 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

loved the first episode - boom, straight in, let's go

pvmic but I didn't realize how much I'd missed Amos' upper arms <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 December 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

on episode 3 - Amos is basically playing out Justified in Space which I am thoroughly into

Simon H., Sunday, 15 December 2019 04:08 (four years ago) link

Thought "What was she wearing?" was a swing and a miss. Only "I'm free right now" rises to join the Hall of past Amos one-liners.

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 December 2019 04:40 (four years ago) link

They’ve skirted around the edges of Amos’s morality a bit, possibly from lacking more of his backstory... but they’re catching up

He’s such a singular presence in the books, because the idea that killing someone who needs killing could affect his mental state or karma? Absolutely not an issue. It’s a sidecar to the Holden narrative logic — if he kills them they needed kill in’, if he saves them then he’s right

mh, Sunday, 15 December 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link

I didn't get into this season until episode 7/8, but once it clicks, whoa.

Really like the way that they interweaved the setup for the next book into this season.

Shohreh chewing the scenery is fun.

I've been thinking about how Naomi speaks noticeably slower when she's switched to Belter (as opposed to when she's talking to her Roci crewmates), I figure that's because when you have to communicate over transmissions, going at a measured pace probably helps with comprehension.

Also goddammit the arc for that one character who is hateable in the books but isn't on the show...

Scorsese runs afoul of the Irishman (Leee), Monday, 16 December 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

i love everyone

mark s, Monday, 16 December 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

I forgot to rewind and check -- was that Filip that set off the bomb that Bobbie escapes just in the nick of time?

mh, Monday, 16 December 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

Oh the Bobbie stuff... some of it is kind of "What were they thinking?" I mean, I get she's a marine and maybe that's why her tradecraft probably sucks...?

Scorsese runs afoul of the Irishman (Leee), Monday, 16 December 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

It was a little clumsy but I get where they're coming from -- extricating her nephew from the drug cartel is pulled straight from a short story, and putting her in the middle of the equipment smuggling places a main character in the plot to set up exactly where all that material's going

mh, Monday, 16 December 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link


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