Crowded House -Don't Dream It's Over: Best chart song of the 80's?

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I can't stand the last Finn Brothers cd either. It's so pleasant. Grrrr. The first Finn Brothers album though, lovely. Especially Paradise. So pretty. I know not of the fussiness that someone else has posted, although I've definitely heard the charge levied against FroomBlake and, incidentally, Jon Brion as well.

Jubalique (Jubalique), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post Back when "DDIO" was released, Froom was considered a very controversial producer. His work on the first Crowded House record, one of his earliest prominent production gigs (barring the porn soundtrack "The Key of Cool" and something by the Del Fuegos) was not considered radio friendly, which may explain why a song as great as "DDIO" took so long to make waves.

Finn's been writing great, great songs since he was barely out of his teens. I hardly think "DDIO" is an exception. Search also "Message to My Girl," "One Step Ahead," "I Got You," and many, many more from Crowded House, the Finn Brothers and his solo discs. "Driving Me Mad" from the last one was amazing. "Golden Hum" from the last Finn Brothers disc is gorgeous.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i used to frequent an open mic night where one bloke played '4 Seasons in One Day' every fucking week, and everyone thought 'mmm, nice song'!
the bloke turned out to be a necrophiliac murderer (i'm not making this up). never liked that song since...

dr x o'skeleton, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 13:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Hell yeah. The organ or whatever it is part right at the end pushes it into "One of the Greatest Songs Ever" territory.
-- rainman (ra...), December 14th, 2003.
it's a rip off of procol harum "whiter shade of pale" insn't it ?

retrogurl, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

belinda carlisle has covered two finn songs.
split enz "stuff and nonsense" and woodfaces " she goes on".

retrogurl, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post and "Whiter Shade of Pale" is a rip-off of Bach.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Crowded House -Don't Dream It's Over: Best chart song of the 80's?

No.

Dan (FIN) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

This is great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v012NTMVcbA

daavid, Monday, 7 August 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

one of those songs whose apparently deep and broad appeal eludes me somewhat

dyl, Thursday, 25 July 2019 02:34 (four years ago) link

I think I prefer "Message to My Girl". (As raised many years ago.) Though that one may not have actually charted beyond the antipodes. Several such Finn tracks are amongst the very earliest music I can remember making me feel things, such that my judgement is possibly not to be trusted.

"Everybody Wants to Rule the World" is a good suggestion upthread. I'm never displeased when I hear it in a supermarket.

Incidentally I like how ILM is old enough that a post about a song from 16 years previously is now itself deeper into the past from the present day.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 25 July 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

I like this song a lot but I've always thought there's something wrong in the arrangements, specifically the way the organ outro part comes in feels a bit cut/paste.
And the production is a bit too dry to my taste.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 25 July 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link

Weird. If anything, the production is too wet! But there's nothing wrong with this song, imo. I'm not a huge fan of the guitar solo, I guess, but it builds just enough for the next (flanged?) part to sound particularly satisfying. There was some song Alfred recently likened to "Don't Dream Its Over" in its intriguing vagueness. "Live to Tell," maybe?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 July 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

eheh yeah I suppose it's very subjective !
But the seemingly tacked on outro is my main issue with this song.

Anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ua3O_fdCY

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 25 July 2019 12:55 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93rj-SQreE

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

(Not vouching for the above at all, btw, but it's nice to see the song sifting down through the years.)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

I love Froom's organ (first draft on Elvis Costello's "I'll Wear It Proudly") and Finn's solo, so there!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

Fun fact: it's not an organ, it's a Chamberlin, sort of a cousin to the Mellotron.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 July 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link

Believe those are made in California, somewhere in the Inland Empire.

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 July 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

Perhaps by (or bought by?) Mattel. I used to own an Optigan, made by same toy folks iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 July 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

ooh an Optigon? always wanted to play one of those, was it cool?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link

Yes and no. Yes, it was cool and sounded cool, but it was also big and prone to breaking down or otherwise not working that well, and tracking down the discs was challenging/expensive. What's funny is I had always talked about them to my wife, about how I always wanted one, and years later when we moved to our first house she found one being sold at an estate sale down the street! But yeah, it didn't work that well, so I eventually sold it to a guy who I think cannibalized them for parts for better working Optigans.

Gorgeous (augmented) use of an Optigan here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVg5WZHoPos

Funny Optigan aside: I once read an interview with Tchad Blake, and he said Tom Waits was really into Optigans circa "Bone Machine" ... but only the shitty sounding built in organ that no one uses!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 July 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link


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