George Harrison: Search & Destroy

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yeah - that lyric's obviously ridiculous when you can get the whole thing over in 20 minutes maximum, including foreplay, right?

My guess is that George was already becoming well-immersed in Indian art and traditions by this time. In Indian art you can indeed see conjoined couples singing to each other. And the Kama Sutra, of course...

Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 06:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

For me, "I Need You" is far and away his best song, great melody and a light touch. The later stuff like "Something" and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is just awful crap.

Not mentioned so far: Search: his lead playing on a lot of the Hamburg album, really tough jagged lines, like he's using a razor blade instead of a pick, the best he ever sounded.

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 03:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Hamburg album? What's this? Color me curious.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 04:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

x-x-post: conceded. i'm mainly laughing because i can't walk and chew gum at the same time, let alone sing and have sex.

cate flamingo (cate flamingo), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 05:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it is a bit of a ridiculous lyric - I couldn't resist a cheap comment.

That lyric reminds me of those mid-late 90s sex instruction shows that were suddenly everywhere on UK TV, with presenters like Toyah Wilcox (no, really) saying things like:

"Why not try singing to your partner when you make love?

It used to popular in indian culture - we're trying to bring it back."

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 06:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

but "love you to" is one of the songs that absolutely spoils revolver for me. the lyric "make love all day long/make love singing songs" makes me laugh uproariously

The Trypes did a really good version of this. In typical Feelies format, the lyrics kind of blend into the rest of the song.

"Love You To" > "Within You Without You"

mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I assume the Hamburg album is the Tony Sheridan record.

No love for "don't bother me"?

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Well, I at least said that his vocals on it were "so perfect you can't imagine the song without them," but I suppose that isn't so much praise for the song itself. I like it, even though I think the bridge is a bit strained. It's all about that low, totally sullen kiss-off of a chorus.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

...now he has faded into musical obscurity. Well, until he is stabbed or cancerous once more.

Ouch.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I remember when a friend played me "It's Johnny's Birthday." I thought they were singing "This song is worthless." I agreed.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

For a short time I had a cassette of his "Dark Horse Years" greatest hits, until the tape got screwed up at the very beginning of a long Greyhound ride. Some great stuff on there - "Gone Troppo," "Crackerbox Palace," "Here Comes The Moon," "Blow Away." Could really do without the 'thoughtful' stuff, especially the 'all your money doesn't make you happy' trip on "Cheer Down." But some really nice material - wish it had had "Faster" on it but hey.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 15:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Crackerbox Palace" may have been the first music video I've ever seen...I recall George popping out of a pram which was being pushed by a woman with John Lennon glasses...

henry s, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 17:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

I still own that Dark Horse tape; it's all you need own from the era. "Cheer Down" is terrific -- god, the guy needed collaborators.

"Blow Away" would make a solo Beatles CD-R comp.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 17:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Proof that McCartney wasn't a control freak is that mewling, turgid pomposity like "While My Guitar Noisily and Repititiously Whines" and "Something"(genius lyric - "I don't kno-o- ow, I-I-I don't know") was allowed on their albums.

"Something" has been recorded in, what is it?, 300-400 different versions or Something. So I guess there must be Something to it....

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 21:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

So, if there is any song that summarizes George Harrison solo it's "That Is All."

On the Living In the Material World, it's this histrionic atrocity with one of the man's worst vocals ever (and that's saying something). Witness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTb0SurR2p4

Thankfully, I got to know the song as the lead track on Harry Nilsson's 1976 ...That's the Way It Is record, which reveals the song to be one of the best, most lovely things George ever wrote. Witness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9jmq_8oTLI

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 04:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

i like that harrison vocal
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buzza, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

this is weird

http://www.youtube.com/user/pizzatimeplayer

akm, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

But destroy a lot of the rest, and destroy his ethos above all: it's the Sham 69 of hippiedom, the ugly meme that discredits all the good stuff.

― Robin Carmody, Friday, August 31, 2001 12:00 AM (9 years ago)

wonder what the hell this was supposed to mean.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think it was an accusation that there was too much dogma in his lyrics.

timellison, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Does Robin post here anymore? He was all over ILM in its early days -- and he has a nice British name.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

A musician friend and I discussed George on Saturday; he was even more violent in his dismissal. "The guy's almost as bad a crank as Lou Reed, except he had the fortune never to record Berlin.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 03:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

I remember when a friend played me "It's Johnny's Birthday." I thought they were singing "This song is worthless." I agreed.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:

lol

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 03:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Remove Living in the Material World and Somewhere in England from his discography and I don't think anyone ever makes that accusation, Alfred.

timellison, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 03:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

A musician friend and I discussed George on Saturday; he was even more violent in his dismissal. "The guy's almost as bad a crank as Lou Reed, except he had the fortune never to record Berlin.

I thought George came off really well in the Anthology series - maybe a bit dismissive of The Beatles legacy, but he seemed to really have good humor about it.

Darin, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 05:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

He had moments of Cranky Old Dad that mitigated Ringo and Paul's sentimentality -- gestures and remarks you imagine John would have made -- but I always remember this moment when the three are jamming on stools and Paul, obviously having a ball, says, "Another one?" and George aims the briefest of evil scowls at him, as if he's thinking, "It's not 1969, motherfucker."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Download zip file of "Beware of Abkco", solo demos for "All Things Must Pass." Love this, could even bring some of the haters around:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YLWVTLIV

thirdalternative, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

I watched the Concert for Bangladesh recently & was pretty shocked at how thin George's voice was. I like his Beatles songs from "If I Needed Someone" on (though not before that), but haven't ever gotten into anything post-Beatles (not for lack of trying, esp. with All Things Must Pass). But that live set, yeesh; George's vocals sound like hard work & that's no fun to hear, especially when the singing is so cringeworthy otherwise. It's a drag, isn't it?

Euler, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my problem with most of his solo albums: he can't sing worth a damn, which makes his homilies a chore to sit through, and he's not resourceful enough a producer to arrange his songs in a way that mitigates the preaching.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Remove Living in the Material World and Somewhere in England from his discography . .

The former has two of my favorite George songs, "Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)" and "Don't Let Me Wait Too Long."

he can't sing worth a damn

Given his multitracked backing vocals all over "All Things Must Pass," some of which are pretty dense and complex, this is madness.

Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

You just made my point though: the vocals were multitracked and produced by Phil Spector. George needs help.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

There's a gulf of difference between "can't sing worth a damn" and "requires a producer's guidance."

Michael Bay, CEO of Transformers (Phil D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I hear him mangle the line "you made me such a big star" on the Bangladesh "Wah Wah", I'm inclined to say "can't sing worth a damn".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDCP4UeXgw8

Euler, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

Phil, I only mentioned those two albums because I think they might have the heaviest concentration of the type of lyrics that were being criticized. No one's ever going to say they can't take Gone Troppo because it's too heavy-handed.

And Alfred, as ever, I disagree with your producer stance. Phil Spector is one thing, but I really like the sound of the Dark Horse-era albums. And there are collaborators on those records - all the people who play on them.

timellison, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

What's the name of that Harrisong playing at the very end of the Time Bandits movie?

t**t, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Dream Away" - one of his greatest!

timellison, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeeesss!

t**t, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, it's like "All things must pass", I quite like the first third, but the second gets very "more of the same" but more heavydraggy.

(The "jam" album I don't mind, actually!)

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, I do mind the jam album. A lot. Then again I got a whole lotta love for most of what comes before it. On ATMP.

Wonderwall is one very decent soundtrack too.

t**t, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'd call it the very definition of "overlooked"

Mark G, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Alfred's constant dismissals of George reminiscent of famous talent scout putdown of Fred Astaire

Retweet From The Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

He had moments of Cranky Old Dad that mitigated Ringo and Paul's sentimentality -- gestures and remarks you imagine John would have made -- but I always remember this moment when the three are jamming on stools and Paul, obviously having a ball, says, "Another one?" and George aims the briefest of evil scowls at him, as if he's thinking, "It's not 1969, motherfucker."

It seems like George took the opportunity of the Anthology to assert himself and stand up to Paul's condescension. He insisted on Jeff Lynne to produce, shut things down when a third Threetles song wasn't working out, and vetoed "Carnival Of Light" on Anthology 2 (that last one rankles, though).

According to Peter Doggett's indispensable You Never Give Me Your Money, George only did the Anthology because he was nearly bankrupt from his film company and a shady business manager or two.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

George is my favorite Beatle

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Bangladesh album is a mess though, I'm not gonna defend that. Dylan's version of Maggie's Farm from that is pretty fun tho

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

tho

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Jim Keltner and Ringo doubling their drum parts during the Bangladesh Concert is one of the alternately most pointless/entertaining things about ti

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I hear him mangle the line "you made me such a big star" on the Bangladesh "Wah Wah", I'm inclined to say "can't sing worth a damn".

I've honestly never seen Bangladesh straight through, just snippets here and there (must rectify) but damn if that youtube didn't give me chills. I didn't hear that line (or any of his singing on that song) as mangled; I think he sounds ragged but right.

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah it's not like he Amy Winehouse'd it or anything

a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink


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